Lets try to bet on...

[marvin]

how many more days/weeks will ignatus create another holy grail thread?

for me 2 more weeks 

[soggett]

how many more days/weeks will ignatus create another holy grail thread?

for me 2 more weeks 

indefinitely 

well I get the kid, he is trying and I like that
he just needs to listen more and read more
before I joined this forum I read for about a year, this and other forums
and my first post wasn't  "hey here's the holly grail, fc.k off if you dont get it" 

[rouletteKEY]

how many more days/weeks will ignatus create another holy grail thread?

for me 2 more weeks 

I'm not an even chances person but if this turns out to be an over/under against the two weeks...I'm going with the "Under" bet

Is there an hours bet?

This will slow him down...he'll have to wait fifteen days for the next unveil just to make me have a losing bet...we'll see if he garners some patience for sure now

[marvin]

if you get the average of his previous post its around 2 weeks hehehe and yeah we could also bet on an over/under hehehe.
how many days from now that the current holy grail thread he got now is another  failure 
i say 1 week

[rayhd63]

........ I don't think this is funny guys.....

I'm not with you on this one.

Sorry.....

What about betting on who is  creating a method that works 

[ilukan]

If anything he is persistent,constantly exploring,traying and believing it may be it,but also admits his failures
which show me one thing......don't be surprised if this guys find something very usefull and profitable after
his hard work....I strongly believe he will, only because of his persistency...keep on Ignatus,maybe some of
your today critics will be due to appologise to you one day....but don't think anyone will.Don't take any notice of them and just continue shooting your ideas out....you are not making fool of yourself but rhose self-colled gurus of roulette....and take my word 90% of them never even seen casino in theirs life......LOL

[Skakus]

What ugnatus does, we’ve all done.
Difference is we didn’t all flood the forums with every single half baked idea that ever popped into our heads.
Most of the work people do is in silence, behind closed doors.
Imagine if every forum member posted every little idea we ever had? Wow, what a mess that would be!

He reminds me of a newly found born again Christian. For the first few years they never shut up about the lord and how to get saved and how we all should live and in what we all should believe. After a few years they quite down and go about their business without being a pain in everyone’s arse.

Much the same here.

[Turner]

What ugnatus does, we’ve all done.
Difference is we didn’t all flood the forums with every single half baked idea that ever popped into our heads.
Most of the work people do is in silence, behind closed doors.
Imagine if every forum member posted every little idea we ever had? Wow, what a mess that would be!

He reminds me of a newly found born again Christian. For the first few years they never shut up about the lord and how to get saved and how we all should live and in what we all should believe. After a few years they quite down and go about their business without being a pain in everyone’s arse.

Much the same here.

Sticking with a religious theme......many Gods throughout many religions who were wronged, heaped wrath on the non believers in the form of plagues and famine. I think Ignatus has been sent by ....or is...a disruntled ex God of this site. Christianity had JC.....LoL....and we had....!!!
Sent in the form of......Pestilence

Amen

[Drazen]

I strongly believe he will, only because of his persistency

Ah my dear sir, I am evidence to myself that persistancy by itself is not enough to bring you where you want in this game. You can be persistant as much as you want like studying this game for 10 hours a day for few years, inventing hundreds of systems and trying litterary EVERYTHING but If you don't learn and conclude what is all about here you will always be looser...

This game is incredibly cruel and all that cruelty can be putted in just one word. VARIANCE. That is the name of a devil here.

That way you are putting those stop losses in your methods and advertise shorter bursts of play, although that has no sense and never helped me to avoid them in my tests to be sincere.. Everything in this game is subjected to that variance and everything is actualy the same thing. Same when you rush face to face on that variance like ruffian.. You can never beat it that way. And all these crude methods and ways here are trying excatly that.

Good for us is that variance has provable limits but still how to take advantage of them sounds much more simpler then actualy is, because edges of those limits are not so sharp to catch dough...

For me it makes no sense at all nor guaranty at first place to attack with several thousands of chips and when things go hairy, stop and come back a bit later hoping you will not be devastated totaly with what you have left... Silly. I am more for scientific approach, and when you understand  things here which impose you death sentence or amnesty, you can't look at things here otherwise...  All other is woodoo, luck, guessing and praying.

And you need sophisticated progression and MM to implement in such way, more clever  from all these that are around here.

It can be better but I have obtained not to go over 300 chips in total DD in worst case for now.

Ignatus is far too checky for his knowledge, that is problem here. Not his will for "allegedly" searching.

Best, sir

Drazen

[Skakus]

Drazen makes a valid point about variance. It is indeed the devil of roulette.

But it can also be the savior. When the variance is on your side you can run up some good profits relatively easily.

You can’t beat it or dance around it you can only let it play out.

The trick is to let the winnings roll upward virtually unimpeded when the variance is with you, and make it virtually flat line when the variance is against you and things start to roll downwards.

If you can build this into your method you will prevail.

It can be better but I have obtained not to go over 300 chips in total DD in worst case for now.

That is excellent DD containment Drazen!

I'm not near 300 yet but have managed to keep it well under 1000 chips. But it only takes me 4 or 5 games to win that amount back. So things are looking good!

[marvin]

........ I don't think this is funny guys.....

I'm not with you on this one.

Sorry.....

What about betting on who is  creating a method that works 

no worries.
so rather than craping the his thread, we are just chilling here watching and laughing on his thread, not to mention annoyed.

problem with the guy is he didn't read most of the post here nor listen to some of the experienced players here.

[TwoCatSam]

"What about betting on who is  creating a method that works", said Marvin.

Marv, ol' buddy, ol' pal........................

A few times over the years I have posed the question:  What must a method/system do/produce to prove it is a winner?  A certain number of wins?  A unit amount?  To my knowledge, we have yet to arrive at an answer as to what a winning system is.  Many, if not most, say there is simply no such thing.

So maybe there are no winning systems, only winning players.  Very well.

How do we determine who is a winning player?  Well, I'd say Ralph pretty much proves he is.  Jl says he will be.   Many say they win but offer absolutely no evidence to support their claim. 

I am still amazed that no one has tried to replicate Ralph's success.  (I would but the bot will not run for me after a certain number of chips are placed.)

ignatus is brash.  Sometimes he simply won't listen.  Sometimes those who simply won't listen are the ones who succeed.

TwoCat

[marvin]

yo! sam,

I'm not the one who said "What about betting on who is  creating a method that works" 
it was rayhd63 who said that .... credit goes to rayhd63 

Sam said "Sometimes those who simply won't listen are the ones who succeed."
But we also have to admit, that most of the times people who "read" & "listen" succeed.

So sam, do you want to bet that ignatus belongs to the "sometimes"?... my bet... "most of the times"

[TwoCatSam]

Sorry about that------WOAH  NEWSFLASH------my other computer just cut off after winning #200 on the L v F Excel bot....

Sorry about that Marv and Ray......

I'll bet on ignatus, not against him.

A kid showed up late for math class.  Missed the first half.  On the board were three math problems.  He wrote them down thinking they were homework.  The next day he turned in the work and said to the professor, "I got two of them but the third is giving me fits."  The professor was amazed as he had written down three unsolvable math problems.  But the kid didn't know they were unsolvable so he solved two.

True?

Highly unlikely.  But think about it. 

Sam

[rouletteKEY]

okay...i thought about it...now what?