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Cycle Up Marries Forced Win!

Started by GLC, Mar 18, 10:03 PM 2013

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GLC

Sometimes bet progressions start coming at me so rapidly that I can't remember them long enough to type them up for you guys.

Fortunately, I did remember this one.

It's based on my forced win idea coupled with a cycle approach.

I will present this using double dozens.

We begin with our forced win progression where we bet 1-1 and we increase each bet by 1-1 until we are at a new high balance.
With the "marries" system, we continue to increase our bet by 1-1 until we win.  Once we win, we reset to 2-2 and begin our forced win progression again but from 2-2 instead of 1-1.

Any time we reach a new high bank balance we reset to 1-1 and start again.

If we have a win and we were betting 9-9 and our next cycle is supposed to start at 5-5 but we're only at -2 units, we should drop back to 3-3 so a win will net us +1.  This helps to keep our bets lower overall.

Here's a short example:
1-1  lose so add 1-1 to the bet  (-2)
2-2 Win.  Recover the 2 unit loss so reset to 1-1 (0)
1-1 Lose so add 1-1 to the bet  (-2)
2-2 Lose so add 1-1 to the bet  (-6)
3-3 Lose so add 1-1 to the bet  (-12)
4-4 Win so start over but at 2-2  (-8)
2-2 Win so start over but at 3-3 (-6)  Remember we add 1-1 to the last starting bet size after a win unless it will put us up more than +1 with a win.
3-3 Lose so add 1-1 to the bet (-12)
4-4  Win so start over but at 4-4 (-8)
4-4  Win so start over but at 5-5 (-4)
5-5  Lose so add 1-1 to the bet (-14)
6-6  Win so start over at 6-6  (-8)
6-6  Win so start over at 7-7 (-2)  Oops.  A win at 7-7 will put us over our +1 target so we drop back to 3-3
3-3  Lose so add 1-1 to the bet  (-8) 
4-4 Win so start over at 5-5  (-4)
5-5  Win so reset to 1-1 because we are at +1 a new high bankroll.

Cheers,

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Naturally this can be adapted to any bet location!!!
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Works great on even chances.

We bet twice at each location.  So our bet line looks like this:

1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 etc...
When I have a win, I like to start at the 1st of the 2 numbers on the next level.

So, if I reset to the 1st 2 the last time, the next time I reset it won't be to the 2nd 2, it will be to the 1st 3.

Dozens we bet 3 times at each level   1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6 etc....

I haven't tested dozens yet.  Starting at the 1st number in a triplet after a win might be just right or it might be too aggressive.  You decide for yourself.

The other locations are adapted following the same logic.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Chrisbis

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GLC

Quote from: Chrisbis on Mar 19, 03:58 AM 2013
An interesting MM George.  :thumbsup:

"Interesting" doesn't mean "Good".  Doesn't mean "Bad" either.  It means "Interesting".  It could be either "Good" or "Bad".  Not enough testing yet. :question:
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Chrisbis

Well................I did think there were some conflict errors in part of it.

For instance......and one point U say 'if up reset' to only make +1, and in other, the progression (ur second bet in the example)
its clear, there is a bet/progression to only make 0 on a win!
So early wins wouldn't be of much use.
If U got a string on wins on the second bet placed, U would stand still! lol
Roulette..........................
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GLC

Quote from: Chrisbis on Mar 19, 05:45 PM 2013
Well................I did think there were some conflict errors in part of it.

For instance......and one point U say 'if up reset' to only make +1, and in other, the progression (your second bet in the example)
its clear, there is a bet/progression to only make 0 on a win!
So early wins wouldn't be of much use.
If U got a string on wins on the second bet placed, U would stand still! LoL

That is a little confusing.  I only reset after winning at 2-2 because it brought us back to even.  Since we're shooting for +1, if we get to even on the next called for bet, we can reset because the next bet is 1-1 and a win will give us +1. 

The only time we shoot for +1 is if our next called for bet is bigger than necessary to reach +1.  We never shoot for even but if we find ourselves at even after a win, hallelujah.

We could play the next bet in the natural progression no matter how much above +1 it takes us.  I'm still on the fence regarding whether it's better to shoot for +1 and try to keep the bet sizes small which means you will have a lot of resets.  Or take some larger wins even if it means we will be betting larger bets overall.  The actual dollar amount may not be that different in the long run and a win that nets you +8 units saves having to play 8 attacks to +1.

What's your gut reaction to this.  Oh, also your reasoned out reaction would be welcome. :-\ 
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Chrisbis

I would stick to small bets, and reset often.
This method would be great to keep BR relatively low verses risk.......

It reminds me of a discussion I had with Ego over a year ago now, about during heavy negative progression lists, whether it would be a good idea to build in Zero profit reset points, even when U were deep into the progression list.
I'm sure its a topic which will come up time and time again, esp with regard to new ways of minimizing risk, and maximizing BR.

So my gut and my reasoned....................is keep it low.

Some great ideas flowing here George. :-)
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warrior

I'm going to try this on my 143 mthod ,but i will try and keep the  units smaller and see what comes out of it.

GLC

Quote from: warrior on Mar 20, 10:54 AM 2013
I'm going to try this on my 143 mthod ,but i will try and keep the  units smaller and see what comes out of it.


Good idea Warrior.  I find a bad run can take a long time to recover if you increase bet size after each loss.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

jarabo002

What can I say?

Its a big pleasure to discover what can we do playing progressions with double dozens with your wonderfull work.

Thanks so much, Mr. GLC!!! :thumbsup:
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