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EC play by guessing !

Started by Ralph, Apr 05, 10:36 PM 2013

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Ralph

Quote from: kimlle on Apr 06, 05:53 PM 2013
I tried this method before, but ends up losing the money that I earned.

I never tried non zero rng, but what i can say is that it does not work in the live casino, since there are many variables that causes you to lose a lot of money.

I have been once just recording the ratio of B/R in the live casino, and it turns out to be 13 black in a row.
This means that you need 1+2+4+8+16+32+64+128+256+512+1024+2048+4096

Also, if it was rng, sometimes there is a run more than 8 times, so it is not working too.
I am not saying, this always fails but, if it is a bad day, you would not want to try it afterwards.


I think you miss the point, just streaks like 13 in a row favour this way of play. And yes you can allways lose especially if the streaks are rare and you got a choppy table.  On 13 blacks ina row we bet the same amount all bets, if 13 reds we bet one at the time.

A choppy table favours martingale type, this play suffer from chops, and win on streaks.

The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

The play has  been running well, for a lot of spins. The method will win if the table shows streaks and not is too choppy. As all methods it can come  numbers which it can't stand, and in this it is long outcome of chops.  Chops and runs cluster, many times it is not hard to find the streaky times. I have done some changes to the betting, to reduce (in some cases) the bets when it happens to run on the opposite. I played all the time black, and  use low bets during the red runs. As soon a red, we expect a run and bet the lowest (if possible nothing), and on first black resume the progression.
Many  numbers of black red  every second time is the worse outcome . Often just  a series of two blacks resume the stake back to first level. If a chop, lowest bet until chop back to black.  About half the red bets fall in the streaks and get allways smallest possible bet.
Any long streaks on red will not harm, rather help.
A new level of the progression will take place once after a shift from red, we stay the same level until new high or a chop.
Some sessions I have higher ground bet on black.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

Running some more, still never got a loss of the 1000 bank.  Plus more than 6000 units.  There are danger if we got very unbalanced to red and chops with single blacks, for long. It will not work as well on a zero wheel, the HE will dig at the bankroll whatever method we use. On a NOZ the long run should not be loss, rather break even, after zillions of spins.

I will try it some more, and a bust is of course possible.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

It is still holding, most of the last ten days play comes from using the Ec play. Just once close to go wrong, but has not yet. The coming bust of 100 Euro, will be compared to a much higher previous winning.



The method is of course capable to both win and lose, and luck takes a part in it. But so far very good.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Skakus

What's the wL standing on how many placed bets?
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Ralph

Quote from: Skakus on Apr 09, 11:49 PM 2013
What's the wL standing on how many placed bets?

I do not bookkeeping  wL.  All red is a miss, and sometimes it will be up to ten spins to get to new high, on rare cases even more.
The chip value is low, so it is a lot of spins, each progression ends often with  0.10-0.70 in profit.
A bad run can get the stakes up to 50 units.

On NOZ it is in a larger sample 50% hit, and all bets are on black (no other bet selection).
The method counts with 50% missing, and try to filter out red streaks with low bets and higher then black hits.
Too much chops is the enemy, streaky periods goes allways well. I use to change to new  random string if it starts chop a lot, which
is about the same as change table.

One of the longest is 61 spins to gain 1.1 Euro. The shortest 10 spin for an Euro (ten hits in a row).

It is many 1000 of spins.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Skakus

Quote from: Ralph on Apr 10, 12:11 AM 2013
I do not bookkeeping  wL.


It would be an advantage for you to be able to see how your guessing fairs with flat betting.

With accurate wL & spin count records you could also calculate the z-score, which would show you the chances of your results being luck or otherwise.

If you are testing manual EC guessing then it is not much more effort to record the wL registry, and that information is invaluable.

More’s the pity.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Ralph

Quote from: Skakus on Apr 10, 01:42 AM 2013


It would be an advantage for you to be able to see how your guessing fairs with flat betting.

With accurate wL & spin count records you could also calculate the z-score, which would show you the chances of your results being luck or otherwise.

If you are testing manual EC guessing then it is not much more effort to record the wL registry, and that information is invaluable.

More’s the pity.

My opinion is it is 50% chance on NOZ, it can vary due to variance, which is the same as luck/unluck.  A flat bet on an EC has 50% chance as well, in a long run it can go up or down, which changes every trials. Even a million bets can show plus or minus, if it is NOZ overwise it is in near all cases minus.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Skakus

Dirt swept under the carpet is still dirt.

Good luck Ralph.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Ralph

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The best way to fail, is not to try!

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