Betvoyager "No Zero" Demo version Randomness

[TwoCatSam]

Guys

I am not saying ALL RNGs are honest.  I am saying that from hundreds of hours of playing BV, I think they are honest. 

As always, time will tell.  If I find definitive proof one way or another, I'll let you know.

Sam

[ati]

BV should offer multiplayer rng with chat option. There could be a normal table with 2 spins per minute and a fast table with 4 spins per minute. Too much dreaming. I've seen multiplayer rng in some online casinos before, but never tried it, and usually no one plays those. I would play a live wheel like Dublinbet, but the 2 spins per minute is such a pain, and the betting limits are also ridiculous.

[teo]

Yes I'm repeating myself...

RNG is a black box. No way of knowing what is in the black box.

Real Wheel isnt a black box. Its there for all to see. A ball, a wheel, a guy spinning the ball

I would never bet RNG because there is no way of knowing how the number is generated.

At best its pure random like random.org. At worse its a guy sat there pressing no.6 when you didn't have it.

You don't know which of this best/worse range is in the black box.

So you can't trust it.

Answer these questions for a) RNG and b) real wheel

1) How was the number generated?
   a) dunno
   b) there...on that wheel with that ball thrown by that guy.

2) was 0 - 36 inclusive included in the random draw every time?
   a) dunno
   b) yes...there all on that wheel.

3)  do you ever doubt the number generator? 
a) yes..all the time
b) no.

Unless you can answer 1a) Yes, 2a) Yes, 3a) No,  I wouldn't use RNG.

NOT A WORLD VIEW....JUST MY PERSONAL VIEW.

Mine also.....would like to hear someone to say that he/she is winning there.

[TwoCatSam]

Is anyone winning anywhere?  Dublin?  Smartlive?

Some fellow somewhere showed a ten-day run from BV and HE was and probably still is---winning.  Someone asked him how he did it.  Not a peep.  You could have heard a mosquito fart.

Sam

[GARNabby]

You could have heard a mosquito fart.

Mosquitoes fart, but they don't yawn... link:://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080926052032AA8JkCL .

[RouletteMaster]

Is anyone winning anywhere?  Dublin?  Smartlive?

Some fellow somewhere showed a ten-day run from BV and HE was and probably still is---winning.  Someone asked him how he did it.  Not a peep.  You could have heard a mosquito fart.

Sam

sam its me and am still winning and am using 0.5 units. see attachment for the last 10 days. no one asked me how, except one person through pm and i did respond. now that you are asking me i can tell what am doing, because the thought of a follow up by the video you posted on having no reds in bv in 10 day history.

my betselection process is very simple. i login to the forum, get to the main board and pick up one of the methods that come up in the first page or pick up the method from last unread replies for bet selection. this is only for bet selection.

for example, today i picked up the one posted by proofreaders on neighbours. then just from my experience, i slightly tweaked it to suit me. what proof said was bet on the number last came along with the neigbours. what i did was i ignored the number and only bet the neighbour on both side. all flat betting.

the second thing i do is progression and i make it very fluid and not fixed. i also make it very slow. in todays case i increased the bet size from 50p to $1 after my bankroll dropped below $30. well it was long but it came out winner. patience is the key.

3rd thing is i never reinvest my profit. so i take $100 and every time i go $10 above this, i used to remove it from the session money. it is a kind of mental thing. the more money i have with me the more i tend to lose. the moment i lose all $100, my plan is to get out and it never happened. i know instead of using a careless progression and losing all, i can invest another 100 and try converting into may be 1000. i can take 6 good days and 4 bad days in a 10 day span.

4th thing is switching. i switch methods quite often. 5 spins, i might be playing one method  and the next 5 might be totally different. for example, while playing proof method,  i also shifted to atlantis method of double dozen, then shifted to skakus method of the ec that dominates and quick to reach 5. two rules, switch whether you are winning or losing. if you are winning then switch after more spins lets say 15 or 20. when losing 5 spins is enough.

5th thing is understanding whats happening on the display. if the display says table is chopping, play for the chops or if it is the other way round, play the other way round. things happen in cycles and they do happen in short terms. people may call it gambler's fallacy and as long as i am winning i don't care what people call it.

i hope i answered you Sam. more than willing to spend more time if you have questions.   

[ati]

Very nice results RouletteMaster. This is what I dream of.
My second real money test on BV also ended with a 0 account balance, so I'm back to fun mode testing. I modified my system to make it even safer with a good idea I picked up on this forum. Only 2 sessions so far, but I'm satisfied with the results.

[Chrisbis]

Excellent post RouletteMaster.

Good to see someone has tapped into the right way to win at BV.
Well done.

[ati]

I always get this kind of randomness on BV. One number repeating 3 times within 5 spins happening all the time. And I always get one number that repeats 5-6 times in about 20 spins.
This might be normal but it makes me very nervous.

This was real money play.

[Smoczoor]

Go with the flow, not against