Line Combo Bet

[Side B]

Cheers Atlantis. Btw, slight typo in my previous post, I've made Ã,£810 profit, not Ã,£610 

What I'm REALLY interested in finding out is how many spins in a row can you get without a single win, playing 3DS with the original rules (ie stopping after repeats). Is anyone here able to test this? That would give us a good indication of how far this system can go.

I think that the highest I've seen is 8 bettable spins without a win, in other words 8 losses in a row before the next spin won.

[ewarwoowar]

ok, i owe it to the guys still involved and the the system itself to give this another go.

the last time i tried was with the barracuda hybrid progression, as outlined by katilla in an earlier post.  has anybody else tried this?
anyway, cover me, i'm going in!

[Kattila]

Hi Ewarwoowar i started new thread about that hybrid :


link:://rouletteforum.cc/full-systems/katt-two-lines-combo-bet/msg13751/#msg13751

[ewarwoowar]

just had two sessions at dublinbet live wheel.

1st session, table 1
playing 2 x ds with 1122334455 etc
58 spins
58 points profit

2nd session, table 2
playing 2 x ds, plus last spun ds with 1122334455
101 spins
10 points profit

thanks kat, will try the barracuda hybrid with the reset twist!

[atlantis]

Tested today again with 3-Line Combo rules + wait for 2 virtual L's at Casino Spielbank, Wiesbaden 15 Oct 2010, Table 8.

Result
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Profit = +21 in 71 spins.
(12 triggered games. 9W;3L)
Lowest Bank = 500/500
MaxDrawDown = 6
Highest Bet = 1st@2 (x3) = 6u (once)

A.

[GLC]

Hey Guys,    The following post was from Victor and it has caused me to re-evaluate my approach to the game.  I have been reluctant to really pursue ideas like waiting for bet triggers, imbalances, etc... such as Atlantis has recently suggested with this system.  But I think that's the way to go.

Dear GLC, the "you know what" lies in coping up with the changes.

Move the shift from the bet to the time of the bet. Move in the TIME dimension of your bet.

For example, in bellas' post here: despite the nice distribution of the wheel you know it is unlikely to truly succeed flat-betting endlessly on it , because there are mandatory times for the game to even-out the non-covered pockets with an increased hit rate to bring it up to par, then the focus should be stressed on the *WHEN* is this bet delivering -to be used- and when it stopped delivering -to be disabled-.

You must have an arsenal of simultaneous bets so that your choices multiply in real time and there's always "something eligible going on".

It is preferably these bets are somewhat "contrary" or at least that they are complementary to each other so shall one go south, then the other one goes north; this way your game plan is based on identifying and betting on the current one that shows the most propitious for the moment your are experiencing in your current session.

You look like a smart man, so you know there are no better or worse bets in roulette. Instead, there are better and worse times for all bets in roulette. The "you know what" is that which identifies best times for tracked bets the most accurately and uses them accordingly.

Regards,
Victor

I have been getting the feeling that all our tweeking of the bet progression and selection is just taking us from bigger swings to smaller swings with the final outcome maybe, maybe not.

I am going to start trying to find triggers based on normal runs in how colors, dozens, etc... fall.

We can use the same bet progressions and maybe even the same bet selections, just pick more fortuitous times to enter the game.

I'll keep you posted.

George

[GLC]

So far I can't say that I've made any improvement in the  win/loss ratio by trying to anticipate favorable streaks.

I can sometimes hit good streaks, but I can't say it happens often enough to risk money on it.

I've been trying things like:  Play virtual until I would have won 6 or 7 out of 10 and then jump in hoping the winning trend will continue.  Jump out if I lose 4 out of 7.

I'm not doing horrible, just not convinced that I can count on it.

I find myself tracking a lot which is hard for me to get used to, Attention Deficit Disorder kicks in.

Anybody else interested in this idea?

George

[ewarwoowar]

hi george, i've been looking at the 2 xds method using the barracuda hybrid progression as outlined by kattila.
with family and work commitments though, i haven't had time to post for the last couple of weeks or so.
i'll get back to it and update regularly soon.

[atlantis]

So far I can't say that I've made any improvement in the  win/loss ratio by trying to anticipate favorable streaks.
I can sometimes hit good streaks, but I can't say it happens often enough to risk money on it.
I've been trying things like:  Play virtual until I would have won 6 or 7 out of 10 and then jump in hoping the winning trend will continue.  Jump out if I lose 4 out of 7.
I'm not doing horrible, just not convinced that I can count on it.
I find myself tracking a lot which is hard for me to get used to, Attention Deficit Disorder kicks in.
Anybody else interested in this idea?

Hi GLC,
I am having similar results. I do not think jumping in after the L's is making any appreciable difference at all... Just stretches out sessions and more work in tracking, so I am returning to original triggers with 2ds or 3ds ways.
I've had some further success in real casino using those. Sometimes I will start with 2ds (2-line combo) and if not much luck will switch to 3ds (3-line combo) until recovered or ahead in the same session. S'pose you could also switch to 4ds combo too.
(Maybe something there - increasing/decreasing the combo at pertinent times?)

A.

[atlantis]

Hi,

I'm still playing this for real in Casino and simply aim to win 12-20 units per session.
I often play the 3DS and the 2DS version and if I play the 2DS version I will sometimes begin  by playing a slightly different starting progression...
6 spins @ 1u each line, 5 spins @ 2u per line, 4@3u per line and then as normal with each successive 3 spins @ 1u higher level.

111111,22222,3333,444,555,666...etc.

If win and level or ahead I restart as usual; if I win and am behind I go back 2 places in the progression string again as normal.

In my few trips so far I have not yet had to wager above the 3u requirement.
I'm thinking that if I cease after the 3rd@4 my total loss is 80u and this seems like an acceptable stop/loss figure.

A.

[atlantis]

Hi folks,

I am now playing the 2-Line Combo bet slightly differently.
I only now bet when one of the following 2 situations arise:

When 3 consecutive numbers that are BE or RO (or a mixture of either) occur then that is signal to bet on Line 3 and 6 (13/18 and 31/36)

When 3 consecutive numbers that are BO or RE (or a mixture of either) occur then that is signal to bet on Line 1 and 4 (1/6 and 19/24)

ZERO doesn't count during the tracking phase.

Exact same progression as before: 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3....
(OR use progression suggested in previous reply above!)

This now means we jump in and play only after 3 L's.

1
25
28 - play line 3 and line 6
14 - WIN
16
0
35 - play line 1 and line 4
28
6 - WIN

Best wishes and Happy Winnings for Xmas
A.

[warrior]

Hi folks,

I am now playing the 2-Line Combo bet slightly differently.
I only now bet when one of the following 2 situations arise:

When 3 consecutive numbers that are BE or RO (or a mixture of either) occur then that is signal to bet on Line 3 and 6 (13/18 and 31/36)

When 3 consecutive numbers that are BO or RE (or a mixture of either) occur then that is signal to bet on Line 1 and 4 (1/6 and 19/24)

ZERO doesn't count during the tracking phase.

Exact same progression as before: 1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,3....
(OR use progression suggested in previous reply above!)

This now means we jump in and play only after 3 L's.

1
25
28 - play line 3 and line 6
14 - WIN
16
0
35 - play line 1 and line 4
28
6 - WIN

Best wishes and Happy Winnings for Xmas
A.

IM going to try it thanks A. all the best W.

[atlantis]

Here is modification in action on real spins from German casino yesterday...

Casino Duisburg: 21 Dec 2010 - Table 3 (yesterday)
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[table=,]
Spin,Number,=Type===,Bet,Win,Loss,Net,Unit Bal.,Bet Layout
1,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
2,4,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
3,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,500,
4,36,Bet,2,6,-2,4,504,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
5,15,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
6,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
7,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
8,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
9,10,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,502,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
10,8,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,500,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
11,31,Bet,2,6,-2,4,504,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
12,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
13,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
14,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,504,
15,5,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,502,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
16,18,Bet,2,6,-2,4,506,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
17,27,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
18,36,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
19,16,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
20,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
21,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
22,34,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
23,13,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
24,0,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
25,18,No Bet,0,0,0,0,506,
26,21,Bet,2,6,-2,4,510,1 : (1-6)(19-24)
27,7,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510,
28,28,No Bet,0,0,0,0,510,
29,5,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,508,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
30,3,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,506,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
31,10,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,504,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
32,33,Bet,4,12,-4,8,512,2 : (13-18)(31-36)
33,2,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512,
34,23,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512,
35,10,No Bet,0,0,0,0,512,
36,28,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,510,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
37,31,Bet,2,6,-2,4,514,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
38,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,514,
39,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,514,
40,3,No Bet,0,0,0,0,514,
41,5,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,512,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
42,15,Bet,2,6,-2,4,516,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
43,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,516,
44,9,No Bet,0,0,0,0,516,
45,5,No Bet,0,0,0,0,516,
46,18,Bet,2,6,-2,4,520,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
47,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,520,
48,35,No Bet,0,0,0,0,520,
49,19,Bet,2,6,-2,4,524,1 : (1-6)(19-24)
50,19,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
51,33,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
52,17,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
53,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
54,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
55,24,No Bet,0,0,0,0,524,
56,6,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,522,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
57,16,Bet,2,6,-2,4,526,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
58,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,526,
59,12,No Bet,0,0,0,0,526,
60,21,No Bet,0,0,0,0,526,
61,1,No Bet,0,0,0,0,526,
62,20,No Bet,0,0,0,0,526,
63,26,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,524,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
64,6,Bet,2,0,-2,-2,522,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
65,15,Bet,2,6,-2,4,526,1 : (13-18)(31-36)
[/table]

A

[F_LAT_INO]

So far I can't say that I've made any improvement in the  win/loss ratio by trying to anticipate favorable streaks.

I can sometimes hit good streaks, but I can't say it happens often enough to risk money on it.

I've been trying things like:  Play virtual until I would have won 6 or 7 out of 10 and then jump in hoping the winning trend will continue.  Jump out if I lose 4 out of 7.

I'm not doing horrible, just not convinced that I can count on it.

I find myself tracking a lot which is hard for me to get used to, Attention Deficit Disorder kicks in.

Anybody else interested in this idea?

George

I'm not only interested but am applying it on any method I play,kind in a rolling manner,but again one must have a great sense of intuition, feelings and playing experience.Know exactly what Victor is talking about,but for me it's hard to explain.
Think that you know what am I about here George.

[atlantis]

I'm going to try it thanks A. all the best W.

Hey WARRIOR,

Good for you. Hope you have fun with the test!

Atlantis.