Inside bets that can win 80% or more.

[Auskaki]

I did a manual cal on my winlist and you guys are right. To solve the tricky part of betting on both side of the equation in order to achive the 274 wins, yes we will have to play more than 16 nos. actually.

Nos 1 and 21 combo the actual nos to bet is 24 to win 12 units.
Nos 2 and 20 combo the actual nos to bet is 28 to win 8 units
Nos 3 and 23 combo the acutal nos to bet is 24 to win 12 units
Nos 4 and 33 combo the actual nos to bet is 24 to win 12 units.
Nos 5 and 32 combo the actual nos to bet is 26 to win 10 units.
Nos 6 and 22 combo the actual nos to bet is 27 to win 9 units.
Nos 7 and 36 combo the actual nos to bet is 26 to win 10 units.
Nos 8 and 35 combo the actual nos to bet is 26 to win 10 units.
Nos 9 and 34 combo the actual nos to bet is 25 to win 11 units.
Nos 10 and 26 combo the actual nos to bet is 28 to win 8 units.
Nos 11 and 28 combo the actual nos to bet is 25 to win 11 units.
Nos 12 and 30 combo the actual nos to bet is 26 to win 10 units.
Nos 13 and 29 combo the actual nos to bet is 25 to win 11 units.
Nos 14 and 25 combo the actual nos to bet is 26 to win 10 units.
Nos 15 and 24 combo the actual nos to bet is 25 to win 11 units.
Nos 16 and 19 combo the actual nos to bet is 23 to win 13 units.
Nos 17 and 31 combo the actual nos to bet is 27 to win 9 units.
Nos 18 and  27 combo the actual nos to bet is 26 to win 10 units

Actual nos to bet from 23 to 28 each spin. Win payout is 8 to 13 units.

The question now is how to achieve the maximum advantage of winning, as against random bet on individual nos. You see that many times on table games, and how punters bet on almost the 36 nos. randomly.

Thanks for your sharing your thoughts.

[Auskaki]

Ausguy,

Gday fellow aussie, my guess.

Crown casino has the RNG and Rapid Roulette games. I have also collected lots of data from table games too.

The rapid games on average is 25 sec per game. To play 23 to 28 nos, one has to be very quick to place bets. Having said that I prefer rapid games as it has the lowest bet of  AU $1. Minimum bet is $10 per session. Imagine, having  playing on table games, and  the lowest value per chip is $5 x 23 nos. Thats alot of capital involved.

I am a "social gambler"if there is such a word.

Cheers.

[ausguy]

Auskaki - In my book there's no such thing a a "Social Gambler". For me there's only 3 types of Gambling outcomes.   -  LOSERS, WINNERS & BREAK EVENERS.

The only "X" factor is how little or big each gamblers  bets, wins or losses are ?

By far the LOSERS are the biggest group, that's why many casinos make $ Billions in profits every year. That's easy to tell when you observe all those chips being "shovelled" down the chip shute after every spin.   As for the other 2 that's anyones guess ?

Also also keep in mind that poker/slot machines give the casino 80 % of it's income (Casino gambling media). The other 20% is spread around amongst all the other games incl. cards, RNG roulette, autowheel, baccarat, roulette, dice/craps, number wheel & whatever else they have. So any one of these game types is not huge in % income terms, they all add up to maximise income, just like spokes in a wheel.

Not hard to guess I'm in OZ Auskaki - Sydney in fact, as mentioned in many of my posts.

Well the 25 sec Rapid Roulette (RR) certainly does have a narrow bet window. The Star here in Sydney, like many other casinos, has much wider RR windows to plck up those players who place large arrays of inside bets. The 25 sec spin rate = 12 spins @ Crown VS 5 Spins @ The Star. The minimum inside bet is $1 & the min. total bet is $5 (I think ?), I don't play the inside numbers apart from sometimes zero insurance bets.

With any winning strike rate, the Crown RR offers far higher win rates per hour potential & would be a good play for outside bets too where only 1 or 2 bets are placed per spin.  Is this 25 sec RR rate constant or does it change with off peak play VS peak time play ? I ask that as I had a PM from a Crown player/forum member & he said the table values change depending on player flows. IE @ quiet times lower limits & busier times higher limits.

As to your previous bet calcs. the other day, then they are NULL & VOID in view of the fact that you now reveal you sometimes bet on more than 16 numbers.

A calc. on your last 18 combos reveals an average of 25.44 placed bets to win 10.39 units.

Buffster - Well assessed on the more than 16 numbers bet. As should be obvious, I could only go off what Auskaki revealed that he only bet on 16 numbers per spin ?

[Auskaki]

Thanks Ausguy,

I am just a small punter and lots to learn about the game. Have read many of the post and indeed there many ways to enjoy and hopefully to win.

From the start I did mentioned that 16 nos bet is most ideal. Most times the 16 nos. are from the last spin result.

And the nos. I share are from my research on nos. that frequently follow the last spin no. where the wheel is turning clockwise or anticlockwise. I only concentrate on 0 wheels.

How and when to bet on the last spin no.?

Our aim is minimum outlay for maximum profit. Always leave the casino a winner regardless of how much?

Thanks guys for your invaluable input, much appreciate. Feel free to use the chart to your own advantage.

[Auskaki]

Visited the Crown casino Melbourne yesterday. Bet on the 16 nos. from the list, only on Rapid Roulette. There is a 25 sec time limit to place bets before the dealer spins the ball. I prefer this RR as the lowest bet unit is $1 and then $10 bet minimum each game. Played for nearly an hour and walked out with $125 in my pockets. Never stay too long or greedy. Every time I lost,  I will wait for the winning streak to start agian, very often between 2 to 4 spins. Of course there are times losing streaks do go beyond that. The beauty of this is, so can the winning streaks.

Trust you did win too, whether at your favourite casinos or live internet sites.

Still working on the best 16 nos. to use and will share later.

Gday to all.

[ausguy]

Looks all good Auskaki. The $125 in your pocket heading out of Crown but how much was in the "SKY ROCKET" going in ?

[Auskaki]

Hi Ausguy,

Didnt get what you mean by Skyrocket going in?.

Said before I am just a once a week roulette player. My capital investment is always $200 stop limit. very often I will walk out the casino with even a $50 profit and I feel good. Anything more is a bonus for this old man heheheh. My bet strategy is using the Doz and Column wager. Ocassionally betting on the last spin no. when the going shows a streak. But only on split nos. to cut cost on table games, where the min. is $5 chip.

Walking away with a profit of $125 is "what a feeling" you know.

Good luck to all.

[ausguy]

Auskaki - Skyrocket is Aussie rhyming slang lingo (language) for pocket. Other gems are Nellie bly = meat pie, dead horse = tomato sauce, cheese & kisses = the missus = wife.

There's heaps more & a site on google that has hundreds of Aussie sayings - well worth a browse for a laugh or two.

Rhyming slang has it's origins going back to the London UK area of Cockneys who used it way way back. One of my favourite Cockney sayings is Pork pie = Lie, also often shortened to Porkies. Sometimes seen in UK police shows where the cops are questioning a criminal who seems to be not telling the truth & the cop will say " me thinks your telling me a load of porkies ol' son".

Some of these c***neys came to Australia & so the Aussie lingo versions were born & have grown to what we have today.

What I was getting at Auskaki with the "skyrocket thing" was responding to you saying that after about an hour you walked out of the casino with $125 in your pocket. What you really may have had in your pocket was $325 ? = $200 BR + $125 win profit. It was just another way of asking what you're profit was.

I thought you said you bet on 16 numbers Auskaki ? You last post is saying doz/col ?  Now this is only a joke but are you telling "PORKIES" to the forum Auskaki ?

Watch out with that "What a feeling thing" as Toyota might jump on you ?      Actually the fully quote is "Oh! what a feeling" 

[Auskaki]

Thanks mate for your input on Oz slang.

May I ask what is your favourite bet strategy on roulette?

C'mon guys please share yours too. Keep the forum alive.

Attached file for those doing research and comparison. I have done the Doz/Col bet input for each spin. First letter is the Doz and the next letter for Columns. Nos  with a circle around it denotes  the wheel spining in the clockwise direction. All the datas are from actual live table games, mainly from Crown casino and others. Have fun with it.

G'day

[nottophammer]

got up gave the trouble & strife a hit & miss, with the whistle & flute on, down the frog& toad, in the cream cookie, had a few jumbo jets,out the bobby moore, monkey in the old sky rocket,

[ausguy]

Just one point on the 25 second spin cycles that Auskaki mentions, he eventially revealed that the bet window was 25 seconds. So add in the spin time & the dealer reset time say + 10 seconds the spin cycle would then = 35 seconds. This changes a 144 per hour spin rate to around 102 per/hr. Still a significant increase over the 60 +/- p/hr spins at the Sydney Rapid Roulette game. I notice Auskaki has been MIA for about 2 months ?

"in the cream cookie" ?  I'm afraid that one sails over my fat head ?

[Auskaki]

Hi Ausguy,

I am still very alive and active in the roulette arena. Currently working out the datas, both "direction" spins and picking the 20 fav hot nos. Will report back asap. G'luck to all and may the "horse luck" be with you.

G'day.

[nottophammer]

in the bookies,playing  rng

[ausguy]

Hammer - Nobody can do that in OZ as our bet shops mostly only cater for track racing & sports betting. The only RNG I've seen is a video horse race bet game.

Auskaki is of Asian background & his reference to horse luck I think links to 2014 being the Year Of The Horse ?

[Auskaki]

Spot on. This is the Horse year, and very good for gamblers of all codes.

Avoid RNG type games at all cost.

Cheers!!!!!