Which online casino is the best + Invincible system to reveal

[Ching-A-Ling]

Hi chingy,

Thank you. Yes I understand it now - any profits from steps 1 and 2 are invested onto a possible win if it gets to step 3.
By the way, the way you play is very similar to my "code 4 elite" variant. No waiting for 12 results before playing.

A.

Hi Atlantis,
      It's very simple and knew you'd understand immediately.
  By the way, I don't play this strategy, I was asked by Chris
  to check it out because he thought it was really good. At first
  I just realized I had seen many forms of the strategy thoughout
  the years and they all failed at one point. When I had told Chris,
  he asked me to take another look. He was under the impression
  this might be a new "ATM Machine", so I didn't want to see him
  get caught up in this without doing some testing myself. Once
  I started looking at the results from the testing I tried a few ideas
  to see if I might come up with something that might increase the
  strike rate and take better advantage of long runs when the losses
  where limited to the 3 step progression.
       I only play one strategy and of course it's the Ching-A-Ling.
   I'm of the belief, "If it's NOT broken, DON"T fix it!" I have improved
   the strategy a little. I've been able to lower the bankroll a little and
   have been able at the same time to make the recovery stages faster
   to get back to Level 1. I haven't shared the information but with only
   two people. I've learned from the "other" forum that it's clear 99.9%
   of people are not up to the "grind" and mostly looking for the Holy
   Grail or some silly bot. Everyone wants the fast and easy way! Out of
   the hundreds that I have taught and played my strategy only a handful
   understood and followed the rules and were disciplined enough to realize
   it's a "GRIND" and "HARD WORK." It's a race Atlantis, but it's a slow
   race and only profit deteremines the winner. You get tired after a while
   watching people alter something over and over and over. Even when
   you lay out the theory of the strategy, The Laws of Distribution and
   Appearances, streaks in even money chance account for approximately
   75% of all trials compared to single events. This is the strength behind
   my strategy. Everyone wants to play online and no matter how much
   I protest that online casino programs are "corrupt" and interact with
   a bettors bets, they are all confused when they lose. True the strategy
   has losses and that is figured into the strategy, but it's losses based
   on true randomness not some program that kicks in once the percent-
   ages start going against these corrupt online casinos. I play in real
   casinos and I'm constantly moving from table to table. It's "work" and
   most gamblers have no time for that. I've always stated that IF there
   truly was a Holy Grail, gamblers would still screw it up and go broke!
   You've read many of my post and know my thoughts on the Human
   Factors. So now at this stage I don't share any of the improvements
   to the Ching-A-Ling. I love reading and any game of chance that's why
   I'm here and if I can save a "kid" from getting in involved in the illusion
   of great riches from gambling, I help by showing them the numbers and
   the "real truth." 99.9% of gamblers are losers, not because of some
   small house edge but based on the Human Factors! Well my friend, I
   enjoyed posting and I think this will become a new home for me. I love
   how the site is run and all posts are reveiwed first! Stay Well, Louie

[TwoCatSam]

  I protest that online casino programs are "corrupt" and interact with
   a bettors bets,

And you have total and complete proof that ALL casinos are rigged?  Could we see this proof?

And please don't use the old saw, "Well, just go ahead an play your on-line casinos and you'll find out." 

Again, where is your proof?  By the way, what the H does "I protest" mean?  Do you caution?  Warn?  Admonish?  You could throw an elephant through that loophole!

TwoCat

[Buffster]

Sam

I'm saying this from the kindness of my heart .... RELAX ... CHILL...


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[TwoCatSam]

Buff

Thanks for that.  I am totally chilled and relaxed.

Hear me now and believe me later-------I have played BV for a few million spins on both play money and real.  If there is a difference, someone would have to point it out to me.  With facts and figures, mind you, not speculation.

I can almost promise and guarantee this:  If you play a system long enough on BV fun, you will lose.  If they were rigged, you would always win on play money so you would gain confidence and switch to real.

I usually allow for being wrong.  I would have to be proven wrong to believe I am.

I'm so chilled, I got frost on my codgers!!   

Sam

[Buffster]

Sam

I know your a pretty relaxed kind of guy .... was just imagining a vein popping out from your forhead ...

Didn't want to lose you so soon 

We all love ya Sam

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[SamNL]

I agree with Sam.
For example: BV Live uses the exact same stream as 888 Casino, Kroon Casino, William Hill and probably more. So I don't believe that they interact with a bettor's bet because they use the same stream.

[steven1212]

Hello,

I have been missing all weekend and just caught up with all of the thread. I guess there is not much more for me to say right now.
Here are the few things that go through my mind. When I take a step back later, I may have more things to say....

1) It really sucks that someone lost the 5 step progression. The worst is that:

a) it was a live casino and probably not rigged. It was pure bad luck that showed the vulnerability of the system
b) it was with an 8 pattern trigger! Can you believe it? 1Millions++ different possible combination, and it still came out?!
c) I can't even say that he was using the system in excess. I personally use myself it for 80-100 units per day. I though It was invincible because I have never lost in such a long time. But we now have the proof that with enough bad luck it could lose on your first try!

My problem, now, is that I do not know if I want to continue playing the system. I'm in a dilemma.
The positive side is that after 2 months of playing, if I was to loose a 5 step progression today, I would still be well above 4,000 units profit. This is not to be neglected.
The negative side is that even though I still think it's rare to see a loss, we now have the proof that it can hit you anytime.
Should I continue playing this not so invincible system, or should I pursue my quest for the holy grail? I'll make my decision soon...

2) Cristal2000, thank you so much for creating this software for our community! It's fantastic, you're the best...

3) Ching-A-ling, so nice to see you here. I used to follow carefully your thread back in the years on other forums (where I was not a member). This forum is the first one I ever subscribed to, because I found at that it is the one with the most useful and behaved members. You never run into idiots like Houston over here. Just people who want to win and want to help. And smart people too...
I used your strategy for a while with a lot of success. I stopped it because I am a very very greedy i.d.i.o.t, and I don't think I will ever change. But not everyone is like me here. And If I may suggest so, I think you should really open a new thread and share your strategy (up to date) with everyone here. A lot of people will be interested and will have a lot to give back...

Until then.

Cheers,
Steven

[TwoCatSam]

Thanks, Buff.

Now, no sooner had I typed what I did that this appeared on my other computer.  Four zeros.  I was dummy-betting during all four.  I won on the #25.  Now, how could they pass up an opportunity to send another zero to kill me?

Sam

[steven1212]

Guys, one more thing I've been meaning to say. It seems all very easy for you to post rapidly when something goes wrong or when you have questions about something you do not understand. That's fine and we try to get back to you within minutes always. But I think it will be much appreciated by everyone if you also shared the positive results you've been having with the system.
Most of you have been testing for over a week and we not a lot have shared their results. I've received a few PM from people thanking me for the system and telling me about their positive results. Some have already doubled or tripled their bankrolls with real money since I revealed the system last week. Many of them tell me that they win on the 1st and 2nd steps and some haven't even reached the 3rd step yet.

I think all this can be encouraging, and educating as well. I think that everyone who's been testing wether with good results or not, should share their experience.

How many units won since the beginning of testing?
How many won before the 3rd step?
How many reached the 5th step, if ever?
How many lost a full prog?
The value of the units use (to see if casino's somehow make you risk more when the value is bigger)
Which casino is used, with what results?!
What is the style of play used (i.e. Hit and run, several sessions of X units per day, continuous play)...

Honestly, I did not need to share my system with any of you to know it gave results. The reason why I did it is so that we can be more people to test it simultaneously with different styles. Number is power. If you do not share results, we will have difficulties understanding what way to play may be the best..

Don't you agree? Learn how to give back...>!

Cheers

P.S. and for you, those 60+ people that I see consulting and downloading the system everyday but that don't even take the time to et involved, you're a disgrace.....   

Steven

[Colbster]

P.S. and for you, those 60+ people that I see consulting and downloading the system everyday but that don't even take the time to et involved, you're a disgrace.....   

I think this is a little presumptuous.  When you were consulting the various matrix ideas that spawned your method, you were not actively contributing.  We know this because of your small post count and just looking back at the discussions back at the time.  Atlantis and John Legend and others did not suggest you were a disgrace just because you were "consulting and downloading the system".  Now, some time later, you have taken what they started and brought it to another level.  There is no reason for you to expect that some of the ones you are calling out will not do the same and eventually build on your work to make something even better for the forum.  We all have different styles of participation here and I think that, regardless of how invincible this method proves to be, you should treat your fellows with respect.  That is what makes this forum far-and-away better than the rest out there.

[Buffster]

Colbster

Ditto

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[vladir]

I think this is a little presumptuous.  When you were consulting the various matrix ideas that spawned your method, you were not actively contributing.  We know this because of your small post count and just looking back at the discussions back at the time.  Atlantis and John Legend and others did not suggest you were a disgrace just because you were "consulting and downloading the system".  Now, some time later, you have taken what they started and brought it to another level.  There is no reason for you to expect that some of the ones you are calling out will not do the same and eventually build on your work to make something even better for the forum.  We all have different styles of participation here and I think that, regardless of how invincible this method proves to be, you should treat your fellows with respect.  That is what makes this forum far-and-away better than the rest out there.

I agree with colbster here. And when we give something, dont expect nonthing in return from anyone. Things will come, good people will see and will contribute if they want and can. Just trust that it will happen, in due time, and move forward.

[steven1212]

Will you look at this! Someone finally diecided to show up.
Colbster, did you think for a second before you posted ? It doesn't look like it. You found time to see how much I posted, but did you even check when I joined the forum? One week before I revealed the system. Why? Because that's very little after I found out about this forum and discovered  the matrix systems. JL and atlantis could not have complained about me at the time they were revealing their systems because I didn't exist here yet.
I discovered all this very recently and the first thing I did was to register I give back to the community all that I had just learned in the form of the invincible system. I did not post in the other threads because when I discovered them they were a few years old an inactive so I opted for a fresh new start.

So don't tell me I was  ungrateful. You are. And next time you accuse me of something please think twice before because that was ridiculous.
And there is a reason why people should give back. Because I asked them. My condition for posting the system was that others contribute. I don't think it's much to ask for people to drop a not and say if the system works for them or not. Just that and nothing more. But for some reasons only that people for who it doesn't work take the time to say. That's why I'm pissed....

I think this is a little presumptuous.  When you were consulting the various matrix ideas that spawned your method, you were not actively contributing.  We know this because of your small post count and just looking back at the discussions back at the time.  Atlantis and John Legend and others did not suggest you were a disgrace just because you were "consulting and downloading the system".  Now, some time later, you have taken what they started and brought it to another level.  There is no reason for you to expect that some of the ones you are calling out will not do the same and eventually build on your work to make something even better for the forum.  We all have different styles of participation here and I think that, regardless of how invincible this method proves to be, you should treat your fellows with respect.  That is what makes this forum far-and-away better than the rest out there.

[Ching-A-Ling]

  I protest that online casino programs are "corrupt" and interact with
   a bettors bets,

And you have total and complete proof that ALL casinos are rigged?  Could we see this proof?

And please don't use the old saw, "Well, just go ahead an play your on-line casinos and you'll find out." 

Again, where is your proof?  By the way, what the H does "I protest" mean?  Do you caution?  Warn?  Admonish?  You could throw an elephant through that loophole!

TwoCat

   It appears I have hit the nerve of a "Hot Cat of a Tin Roof"! I'm new to this forum so I'll try to be a little polite, but it's sometimes hard when confronted in this manner.
   This isn't the first time I've been approahed with such hostility when I
have spoken out about online casinos. On both occassions they were from
online casino program "affiliates" who work gambling forums and sites.
Naturally they never openly admitted their direct ties to the online casino industry, they would post constantly in forums always with some silly martingale progressions and how they win big at this online casino or
another. They always seem to have a special link with a super bonus if anyone wanted to try out his "Awesome" system at this online casino
and how great and fast they paid him everytime he won. Being in the
"know" of certain aspects of the online casino industry, some of these
affiliates make as much as $25,000 to $50,000 a MONTH, yes a month!
I'm talking serious money in a few special cases.
     You want proof, do your own research and learn how online casinos
are licensed and in some cases regulated. Do you think any online casino
in the world submits their "programing" to anyone!!! It's obvious your
a cat with a big meow, if you would have presented yourself in a more
civil manner I would have gladly shared some enlightment. I don't know
what ties if any you have to the online casino industry, but from the
hostility in your post, it's clear you have some direct purpose. If you are
a affiliate your garbage as far as I'm concerned anyway and if your
just another degenerate gambler it doesn't matter where you lose your
money. So all the rest of the good people of this forum, please do your
own research and learn first hand all you can about online casinos and
how they are operated. It's your money, they can take your money in
less than 5 seconds, but find out the average time and hastle it takes
to get your winnings. Some online casinos are run by RNG's linked to
very sophisticated programs, even your online casino live feeds aren't
really what they appear to me. B.T. Barum had one of the greatest lines,
"A sucker is born every minute."

   Well what I thought was going to be a great forum appears that
   maybe it's best just to stick to reading some of the more intelligent
   posts and refrain from posting. Shame I do so much enjoy jumping
   in once in awhile. Enough said, all thoses that know me, know I'm
   always the first to help if I can and I'm not selling anything or
   promoting anything! But it's very clear, Hot Cat has another agenda!

                                                 Good Luck, Louie/ Ching-A-Ling

[steven1212]

Vladir I don't remember you disagreeing with me when I used to say that people were ungrateful. Perhaps that's because at that point you needed my help and my system and today you won't. You and the rest make me regret I ever shared it because I knew how all that was going to end.

Thank goodness for me, All the thread I read before posting didn't only inspired me for the system l b for something  else very important. If you go back to the double street 6x6 system by Hermes (which was very good although people were ungrateful to him to) Hermes inspired me doing something genius. He knew how you were and decided to give you his system but not all of it, so that the ungrateful ones would still have to work hard and could not just take/steal something they didn't deserve. What he did is that he kept a key element to his system secret.
Unfortunately for you, and choose to believe me of not, this is what i did. I kept away from you all the invincible magic ingredient from this system.
It has to do with pattern selection and trust me you can think all your life you won't find out, just like you would have never invented yourself my system.
From the example that amiwrong has given it is clearly obvious that this ingredient is what made the difference. And it is the reason why he occurred a loss on the first day and why i didn't after one month of hours of continuous play!

Do you want to guess the worst news now? You will NEVER know what it is. NEVER!
Because I warned you and you continued anyway. You will never know because this is the very last time I lost in thread.

I do not need you to make this system work. I needed you to help find its flaws and overcome the table limit issue. You were happy to get the system for free but asking you to share your results with me was too much to ask.

You ruined your chance to know how it works.

Cheers

I agree with colbster here. And when we give something, don't expect nonthing in return from anyone. Things will come, good people will see and will contribute if they want and can. Just trust that it will happen, in due time, and move forward.