What about this betselection?

[ignatus]

I tried different betselections based on the wheel, and perhaps i found something here?

I'm asking your opinion.

it's 9 numbers,flatbet....(se pic & graph)

[Asxetos]

My opinion is that 25.000 spins are a very little test to make conclusions.
The next 25.000 spins can end up -10.000 chips.

Also this bet selection method isn t playable because in some point as you can see it needed a huge amount of spins in order to recover.

[ignatus]

well, i think this graph is impressive, because....if you have tried any other random betselection, you would see a graph pointing straight down, you would know this if you have roulette xtreme...a neutral tred for 100 000 is very impressive imho...

[Buffster]

Ignatus

You base your selection on the wheel, yet you test it on rng, which does not consider the wheel.

RX is good to test wheel based selections if you LOAD a file with B&M numbers. Numbers you or someone else got from sitting in front of the wheel for hours on end.

Then come back with your results.

B

[ignatus]

These are not random spins i have a one million live spins

[Asxetos]

well, i think this graph is impressive, because....if you have tried any other random betselection, you would see a graph pointing straight down, you would know this if you have roulette xtreme...a neutral tred for 100 000 is very impressive In My Humble Opinion...

But ofcource I have RX. I test everything ONLY on RX.
I have tested several flat bet selections in the past that passsed a lot of spins, just to crash badly afterwards.
It s matter of luck.
Only after 1.000.000 spins if something is still up , then its realy something!

[TwoCatSam]

Asbestos

I'll hold you to that 1,000,000 thing.

Did I spell your name wrong??

Sam

[ignatus]

Here is a random betselection of 9 numbers.

You don't see the difference do you?

If you would have had roulette xtreme and did some tests you would understand this,

[jjfx]

ignatus,

from RX, can you tell me how many wins in 100 000 spins?

thanks

[ignatus]

more spins with this betselection...i believe this can be played with 9 numbers negative progression for better results... i don't think it's practical to play it flatbetting.

[ignatus]

Here are the numbers for those who wish to test it for themselves. (for live-wheels, not RNG!) I don't want to give any false hopes, and it will have a negative trend in the long run when flatbetting, but still the betselection has been proven better than others.....with negative progression is playable, perhaps

0 = 0,1,11,14,20,26,30,32,36
1 = 0,1,3,17,20,25,26,33,34
2 = 2,7,18,16,21,25,24,29,33
3 = 3,13,16,26,27,33,34,35,36
4 = 4,5,9,10,18,19,21,22,24
5 = 2,4,5,10,12,21,24,28,35
6 = 1,6,12,14,20,27,28,34,35
7 = 2,7,8,17,23,25,28,29,30
8 = 7,8,15,18,19,23,29,30,32
9 = 4,9,13,15,19,22,27,31,36
10= 4,7,5,10,12,19,21,23,28
11= 0,9,11,18,22,26,30,32,36
12= 5,6,10,12,24,27,28,34,35

13= 3,9,13,14,26,27,31,35,36
14= 0,6,14,15,20,27,31,32,34
15= 8,14,15,19,20,23,30,31,32
16= 2,3,16,17,24,25,26,33,35
17= 1,7,16,17,25,28,29,33,34
18= 2,4,11,18,21,22,29,30,36
19= 4,8,9,10,14,15,19,23,31
20= 0,1,6,14,17,20,26,32,34
21= 2,4,5,16,18,21,22,24,29
22= 2,4,9,11,18,21,22,30,36
23= 4,7,8,10,15,19,23,28,29
24= 2,3,5,12,16,21,24,25,35

25= 2,7,16,17,18,24,25,29,33
26= 0,1,3,11,13,16,26,33,36
27= 3,6,9,13,14,26,27,31,35
28= 7,8,10,12,17,23,25,28,34
29= 2,7,8,17,18,23,25,29,30
30= 7,8,11,15,18,19,29,30,32
31= 6,9,13,14,15,19,27,31,32
32= 0,8,14,15,20,23,30,31,32
33= 1,2,3,16,17,25,26,33,35
34= 1,6,7,12,17,20,28,33,34
35= 3,5,6,12,13,16,24,27,35
36= 0,9,11,13,18,22,26,32,36

[Asxetos]

ignatus

The more you test a method the better.
Only a great amount of spins tested can show you if the system has a real advantage or if it was just a nice fluctuation that was favoring the numbers you were betting during testing.(luck)
Testing a flat bet requires less spins to be tested to show the power of the system ... testing with progression needs a lot more spins to show it s real potentials.

from the things you say it s obvious that you are new in exploring the game.
One day maybe you will learn.I hope not with the hard way.

I was also very exited when I was new in the forums...
Everytime a system that I was inventing were passing an X numbers of spins I thought I had the holy grail LoL!
Old and expiriended members like Winkel,Victor,Katilla etc. were telling me things like I told you above and I was making fun of them...
But after more testing I was realising that they were right.

This exitment that you have is one of the most increadible feelings! I sure remember how it is to feel like this by thinking you have found something strong for winning this game.
After so many years of research I can t get exited anymore...I will ....ONLY if i see or find something that is a lot diff than all the known approaches.

I remember the years that I was studing Visual ballistics and bias play.
After mastering VB and playing a little of it in my local casinos, I found out that  the conditions that were needed was very hard to find in my casinos...
Also VB needed a big capital to play and it needed so mush pre work to do in order to study the wheel you were gonna play and try to stay under the management radars ets.
Do I wasn t intrested in this kind of game anymore...

I told to myself that only with a mathematical of pattern or voodoo way I would be pleased to make money from this game.

[ignatus]

yes, perhaps this betselection is no better than the other. you're right i was excited seeing the first results, but then doing more test it's definite that it won't work flatbetting in the long run. I have played this live (dublinbet) and results was not bad, i won 300u, beginners luck then ....

[Asxetos]

I am so glad that you are very clever!
Well done ignatus you are in my clever members list. 
You learn very very super quicky

I wish the best to you and to find the method that will make you rich

[Kattila]

Asxetos it s right ,
I also have tested and (still) play this kind of systems( 9 inside  numbers flat bet) and with one a have gone in my tests till  around +3000 units
after 80 000 spins then started to go down, in others tests i was up after 40  000  and 60 000 spins but in others the result
was negative after  5000  or 10 000 spins.  We all know the result in the long run.....
Still not bad way to play this systems flat bet or with  few progrs.  steps and use your own target / stop lose, also not bad have and track
few systems at the same time ( if possible ) and jump from one to other , bet hot groups ( if you have 4 groups each 9 numers will notice
most of the time one group will sleep a few spins , many times  from 7....till 15  or 20 spins, the attack is better on one of the active groups)
dealer signature based  systems....

cheers