What are the best systems in the history of this forum?

[falkor]

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3928.msg36638#msg36638

I stumbled across this system by Winkel about a week ago, and it's doing well. I made some off my own changes, I tried playing 4 streets, or, 2 double streets at once, however, I've reverted back to either playing the 1 double street, or, 1 street as described in the thread.

Beware you need a very large bank roll and big b***s, as some of the bets can get high in progression. I'm currently playing Sky Vegas in the UK on RNG (I know, I know) with minimum stake of 1p, therefore, £30 give you 3000 units, it also gives you good min/max table bets. I started off with a 2500 BR, and I'm now currently just under 8000 units. When playing with 1 double street, or street, I play that selection until I'm in profit, and then change the selection. I target 100 units in a session which could be made of anything from 1 game to 100 games depending how much you are winning per game.

My only concern is your BR can run out before you get the required game in +, therefore, I'm debating whether to have a stop/loss, the original thread doesn't really cover this, you are advised to keep going until you reach the table limits....

For reference the highest bet I've had to make so far was 233 units on a street and in this game I was down approximately 3200 units, I then had 2 wins in the next 6 spins and the game ended circa 550 units + I was betting on street 10 and it only appeared 6 times in 135 spins.

Looks really good! I know a double street can appear 6 times in a row max during 1 million spins, but I wonder how long a DS can sleep for?

[ddarko]

Looks really good! I know a double street can appear 6 times in a row max during 1 million spins, but I wonder how long a DS can sleep for?

I have to ask, how did you obtain that stat please Falkor ?

[falkor]

I test it myself at 1 million spins. I also tested other patterns like 1,1,2,3,2,1 >1,1,2,3,2,1 > 1,1,2,3,2,1 (18) = 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (12) = 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 (12) = 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 (12) - though it fluctuate 11/13 (never more than that).

The above analysis is actually for Dozens. DS is 4/5, and Streets come max 3/4 times in a row.
EDIT: My memory might be playing up. I'll post the exact stats in a moment.

[ddarko]

I test it myself at 1 million spins. I also tested other patterns like 1,1,2,3,2,1 >1,1,2,3,2,1 > 1,1,2,3,2,1 (18) = 1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1 (12) = 2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2 (12) = 3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3 (12) - though it fluctuate 11/13 (never more than that).

The above analysis is actually for Dozens. DS is 4/5, and Streets come max 3/4 times in a row.
EDIT: My memory might be playing up. I'll post the exact stats in a moment.

Okay, thanks for the reply & I look forward to your future post confirming your data.

BTW, are you using "actual spins" or "RNG spins" ?

I ask because for me I think there is a world of difference between the two 

[falkor]

1,000,000 spins from the casino published at the roulette testing site:

[ddarko]

1,000,000 spins from the casino published at the roulette testing site:

thanks for that 

So IF I've read it correctly the max was EIGHT double streets in a row correct ?

Do you know were they got the 1m spins from please ? (I will have a look)

[falkor]

Yep - I got confused because I was dividing those numbers by 2 when I was testing for repeating patterns.

I don't know which casino the numbers came from - but everything evens out quite nicely after 1,000,000 spins so I have no reason to suspect the data in any way.

I am going to be testing HOT and COLD numbers next. Also, I want to test a few other theories out.

[ddarko]

I have no reason to suspect the data in any way.

I'm not suspecting the data I just wish to know WHERE it came from 

AS for Hot & Cold numbers good luck, I believe nothing "is due" so I wish you well.

& thanks for getting back to me 

[falkor]

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3928.msg36638#msg36638

I stumbled across this system by Winkel about a week ago, and it's doing well. I made some off my own changes, I tried playing 4 streets, or, 2 double streets at once, however, I've reverted back to either playing the 1 double street, or, 1 street as described in the thread.

Beware you need a very large bank roll and big b***s, as some of the bets can get high in progression. I'm currently playing Sky Vegas in the UK on RNG (I know, I know) with minimum stake of 1p, therefore, £30 give you 3000 units, it also gives you good min/max table bets. I started off with a 2500 BR, and I'm now currently just under 8000 units. When playing with 1 double street, or street, I play that selection until I'm in profit, and then change the selection. I target 100 units in a session which could be made of anything from 1 game to 100 games depending how much you are winning per game.

My only concern is your BR can run out before you get the required game in +, therefore, I'm debating whether to have a stop/loss, the original thread doesn't really cover this, you are advised to keep going until you reach the table limits....

For reference the highest bet I've had to make so far was 233 units on a street and in this game I was down approximately 3200 units, I then had 2 wins in the next 6 spins and the game ended circa 550 units + I was betting on street 10 and it only appeared 6 times in 135 spins.

I'VE GOT EXPLOSIVE NEWS IN THE FORM OF NEW STATS!!!!

Fibonacci Numbers
1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,377,610,1597

Max 1000 Table limit
Max # bets: 15 * 5 = 75

Max 2000 Table limit
Max # bets: 16 * 5 = 80

Max Cold Double Streets in 1,000,000 spins
79!

That means this system should pass the 1 million spin test!!

Is there any way the system can be improved slightly? If we apply it to single streets would the stats fair any better?

[nottophammer]

are supa dupa and mmsip no good, what about grandpaa's way

[JimmieB]

Hi NTP,

I wasn't overly keen on supa had several bad
sessions at the start and that put me off, however, I think mmsip is strong with good mm. I'm not familiar with grandpa's way, any info would be appreciated.

On a side note opinions on systems can be very varied depening on the person's betting style, and, of course the success they have had with a particular system, I guess this is what's great about this forum, we can all discuss the many aspects of roulette.

Regards
Jim

[nottophammer]

Hi Jimmie, hope works     link:://vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=6273.0

[JimmieB]

Cheers NTP 

[nottophammer]

Jim

do you think granps way any good

[JimmieB]

Hi NTP

I've been sidetracked with something else over the past week/10 days, I'll PM you...

Jim