Idea for a new system!

[falkor]

If you waited for black to come in a row 13 times you could then use a Martingale progression to try to win 1 unit. You would most likely win because during 1 million spins the number of blacks in a row is unlikely to exceed 22. The problem is you would have to wait a long time for this trigger to happen.

Now in the above example we only have 1 trigger (black coming in 13 times in a row), but if we add another 2 triggers for each of the remaining even chance bets then we have a total of 3 triggers and more chance of something exciting happening during our day's play.

If we also monitor numbers sleeping for 400 spins we then have a good chance of winning up to 35 units on a number. So that's 4 triggers. How about sleeping Double Streets for 50 spins? How about numbers coming in 3 times in a row and other interesting patterns?

Now if you could come up with 500 triggers and up to 500 simultaneous types of bets on different areas of the board you might end up having exciting things happening every spin together with continuous profit!

But then I still haven't figured out exactly how Gambler's Fallacy works yet because if we take the example of 22 blacks appearing in a row, you'll find it's not comparable to waiting for 18 numbers to appear on the board: it will usually take a lot more than 22 spins for that to happen! Somebody even claims that betting on 3 Double Streets (1 from each of the Dozens) puts you at an advantage to the house for that EC variation.

[RouletteGhost]

if i was unemployed and had infinite free time, maybe

the whole 3 center doublestreets thing will never sleep 22 times in a row like the other EC bets

[Turner]

the whole 3 center doublestreets thing will never sleep 22 times in a row like the other EC bets

can you explain why?

[RouletteGhost]

can you explain why?

how can anyone explain why? the randomness of the wheel maybe?

dont take my word for it. observe past spins. go on testmystrategy and test 1 double street from each dozen for 100 spins 500 spins 1000 spins 5000 spins. max consecutive losses are in the 10-13 area. i cant explain the WHY

[RouletteGhost]

50,000 spins test on even chance bets

red - 13 in a row consecutively, black - 15 in a row consecutively

odd- 11 in a row consecutively, even- 13 in a row consecutively

high- 13 in a row consecutively, low- 19 in a row consecutively

center double street from each dozen- win- 16 in a row consecutively, loss- 12 in a row consecutively



just wanted to throw that out there

[rouletteKEY]

any EC can sleep the same amount of times no matter how you dice up the bet

however...that being said...if I could break down my EC bet to the 18 or 19 hottest (you define hot) I like my odds a whole lot more of never having it sleep 22 times

I can't even imagine how long it would take to get 13 misses to get your trigger though as it would have to continually hit the 18 or 19 coldest in a string as you are modifying the bet selection.

[Turner]

how can anyone explain why? the randomness of the wheel maybe?

dont take my word for it. observe past spins. go on testmystrategy and test 1 double street from each dozen for 100 spins 500 spins 1000 spins 5000 spins. max consecutive losses are in the 10-13 area. i cant explain the WHY

Im not sure how you can say 3 lines wont sleep for 22 spins if you dont know why.

Of course it can sleep for 22...and I know why.

3 lines=18 and EC = 18. Same thing.

You may not see it for millions of spins. It may happen when you start betting

The spins you mention above (100 spins 500 spins 1000 spins 5000 spins) are small amounts. 13 in a row is once in 8000 spins.

22 sleeps will occur on average every 4 million spins. But when?

ECs have been seen to sleep longer than that. 3 lines is an EC. An even chance. It pays evens

[RouletteGhost]

Im not sure how you can say 3 lines wont sleep for 22 spins if you dont know why.

Of course it can sleep for 22...and I know why.

3 lines=18 and EC = 18. Same thing.

You may not see it for millions of spins. It may happen when you start betting

The spins you mention above (100 spins 500 spins 1000 spins 5000 spins) are small amounts. 13 in a row is once in 8000 spins.

22 sleeps will occur on average every 4 million spins. But when?

ECs have been seen to sleep longer than that. 3 lines is an EC. An even chance. It pays evens

i agree with what you said but no they will not sleep 22 times in a row. 13 max

[falkor]

I just tested those 3 double streets for 1 million spins:

3 Double Streets: 19 times in a row
Rest of the board (not including zero): 20 times in a row

[foreverBOB]

An EC bet = 18 fixed nrs.
If you dont like to wait for 13 hits in a row to play the opposite sleeper, just play 18 inside nrs:
Track spins untill 18 numbers remain unhit, thats your sleeping EC bet.
The more you have to wait to close into 18 unhit nrs, the better they're asleep.

[Turner]

Bravo Bob !
And what do you find? Its hit 22,23 times.
It happens every spin...just not if you pre determin the 18, like red or odd.

[RouletteGhost]

So you would simply bet every spin, track the last 18 numbers hit then bet the remaining 18.

[Turner]

Or would you? Here is a group of 18 numbers with an SD of 6...7?....so bet the opposite for regression or is this a trend...or very hot, so continue betting. Looks like we are back at 50:50 with no advantage.

[foreverBOB]

Yes Turner,
What I am trying to say here is that waiting for any 18 "unhit" nrs  will take less time than to wait for a specific set of 18 EC nrs to keep sleeping/repeating.
EC bets are just fixed bets.
Your main question, Falkor, is about applying many sets and to narrow down due time. Waiting for an EC to behave appropiate is just about "acting" as an EC on inside nrs. Same math, more occurances.

[falkor]

It was this experiment you two are describing with 18 numbers that got me thinking about Relativity in Roulette - together with some other tests I carried out waiting for 22 reds to come in a row. Since posting the above I have reached some startling conclusions contrary to other people's understandings, but I don't wish to re-open that can of worms again!