Even Odds

[psimoes]

Working on it. Stay tuned.

Edit - Well, for that you just have to invert the Ws and the Ls, paying attention to when the zeros hit, as those are always L.

I'm working runs of two of the same ECs.

OO(O)
EE(E)
OE(O)
EO(E)

We'll bet at the same time with the runs of three. When they conflict, we don't bet. We bet only when they overlap.

[nottophammer]

Off topic
Isee your looking Jimmie B look at reply 87, you get numbers like that now and again, lovely

[psimoes]

So far the best results are achieved by tracking last three and betting for continuity, and at the same time tracking last two and betting against...

With ECs the best we can hope for is 18 Ws vs 19 Ls (including Zero) per 37 spins.

We don't necessarily need to increase the rate of Ws per Ls, although it's preferable.

We need the Ws and Ls to appear more regularly and less clustered:

LLLLLLLLWWLLWWWWLLWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLWWW - Here marty gets killed.

We must shift the Ws and Ls so they appear like this:

LLLWWLWLWLWLLWLWLWLWLWLWLLLWWWLWLWLLLW - Here we're banned from the casinos for winning too much!

[nottophammer]

LLLLLLLLWWLLWWWWLLWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLLWWW - Here marty gets killed.

LLLWWLWLWLWLLWLWLWLWLWLWLLLWWWLWLWLLLW - Here we're banned from the casinos for winning too much!

WHAT IF after 19 spins the L/W  shows  6 w's to 13 L's something like in reply 20 14L,5w is it Go,Go,GO

[psimoes]

Notto, I'm on another register now. Sorry. This would probably deserve its own thread so as to not confuse other people.

Here's the results from comparing  the two different approaches:

L3F = Last three For
L3A = Last three Against
L2F = Last two For
L2A = Last two Against

Betting L3A+L2A results in maximum 4 Losses in a row!

Edit - file updated (less confusing).

[psimoes]

Here's the registry from L3A+L2A.  37 Wins vs 28 Losses. Even flat-betting is highly profitable!

L3A
+
L2A

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[thelaw]

Excellent Work-Thanks so much!!!

Now the question is how does it hold up over 1000s of spins?

[psimoes]

Thanks! Yep, guess this one should move on to the Testing Zone.

thelaw, do you understand the concept?

L3A + L2A are betting "against". They survived 7 Evens in a row because at the beginning and the end of that streak they entered into conflict so the only option was No bet. This resulted in only 4 losses. I tried including a "control group" that is betting "for" every next spin (same as last spin). This one conflicted with the other two groups and vetted the bets, so the streak was avoided. This control group lessens the winnings a bit and there were still 4 losses earlier in the session, but because here was a zero. Otherwise maximum Ls with a control group included: 3!

[thelaw]

Thanks! Yep, guess this one should move on to the Testing Zone.

thelaw, do you understand the concept?

L3A + L2A are betting "against". They survived 7 Evens in a row because at the beginning and the end of that streak they entered into conflict so the only option was No bet. This resulted in only 4 losses. I tried including a "control group" that is betting "for" every next spin (same as last spin). This one conflicted with the other two groups and vetted the bets, so the streak was avoided. This control group lessens the winnings a bit and there were still 4 losses earlier in the session, but because here was a zero. Otherwise maximum Ls with a control group included: 3!

Can you give an example in real time with spins/numbers (just long enough to explain system)?

ex.
1.   32   R   H   E   no bet (tracking)
2.   17   B   L   O   nb
3.   07   R   L   O   nb
4.   12   R   L   E    nb
etc......

[SamNL]

Excellent Work-Thanks so much!!!

I totally agree with thelaw here.

You're doing some excellent work psimoes!

Also a big thank you from me as well.

[atlantis]

Also agree too!
Good work and an interesting selection criteria betting against the L3 and L2 pattern when they agree.
Hope the good results are maintained during the tests!

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A.

[RFMAXX]

First Off: thanks for this. Could someone please explain the new l3a + l2a rule?
Why no Bet sometimes? Example: e,o,e next Is o and a loss in psi pdf.
Example from atlantis: o,o,e,e,e bet o and Win. Then no Bets Following behause New tracking.
Don't get it 😛

[atlantis]

First Off: thanks for this. Could someone please explain the new l3a + l2a rule?
Why no Bet sometimes? Example: e,o,e next Is o and a loss in psi pdf.
Example from atlantis: o,o,e,e,e bet o and Win. Then no Bets Following behause New tracking.
Don't get it 😛

Hi RFMAXX,
If I understand psimoes bet selection correctly (I hope I do) you are looking first at the PATTERN made by the last 3 O/E results.
You look to see what result would cause a symmetrical pattern of 4 to form eg:

Last 3 results:
oeo===> so an "e" result next spin will create the balanced pattern of 4 : "oeoe"

Secondly, we now look only at the last TWO results also -

The last 2 results were:
eo====> so if chop continues it must naturally be an "e" also...

When both are in agreement like that - you always bet for the OPPOSITE result to occur (against the "e" forming)
So in this case a bet is placed on ODD.

When both are not in agreement it is a no-bet.

The latest last 3 string and the last 2 string are then analysed after EACH SPIN to see if another bet, or a no-bet is indicated.

The bet (if indicated) is always AGAINST the last 3 and last 2 strings to achieve their balanced harmony.

Psimoes says that this is producing the better results compared to other options.

Hope that helps!

Examples:

eeo - no bet

ooo - bet e

ooe - no bet

eoe - bet e

A.

[ddarko]

Examples:

eeo - no bet

ooo - bet e

ooe - no bet

eoe - bet e

A.

As promising as this looks surely it needs the no bets to somehow become bets to make it complete ?

[atlantis]

As promising as this looks surely it needs the no bets to somehow become bets to make it complete ?

e
o
o  no bet
e  no bet
e  no bet
o  no bet
o  no bet
e  no bet
o  bet ODD
e  L - bet EVEN
e  W - no bet
e  bet ODD
o  W - no bet
o  no bet
o  bet EVEN
e  W - no bet
o  bet ODD
e  L  bet EVEN
e  W - no bet

Well if you're going to bet every spin  - you will get the expected results.
By not betting every spin and betting only when intimated by the formula, psimoes is trying to find an optimum way to negate and eliminate the long losing runs that can all too often sadly occur on the EC bets and thus capitalise on the win/loss ratio either using flatbetting or with some suitable type of progression.