Why say progression system fails?

[hkl8324]

Hello I am new here, everyone.
I know that kind of system fail in the long run the computer generated random number  test, but what is the point of it?
You are simulating a man playing a game 24/7/365 not stop but in real life that is not possible.
When you play just 1 to 2 hours even the classic Mar tingle system will get you a win most of the time will some waiting time (gambler fallacy?)
The main point is that most casino run 24/7/365 like the computer do but if real life we pay for a few hours and go out...
even for pro player. Most if not all the so call catastrophic "lose in row" are automatically dodged when we sleep.
And that is quite random.

How can someone say that progression system do not work when in math we cannot even take that into account?

Sorry if I am saying stupid words...I am a newbie here 

[iggiv]

there are different progressions, for example positive and negative. "Up and pull" is positive kind. Positive sometimes could change the result, help. But usually they don't help you just win instead of losing. Negative progressions fail.

link:://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/rbf/HIPR2/figs/gauss1.gif

It means that all you win with negative progression usually you lose do to the fact that sooner or later will be relatively rare event of very long sleeping number (or dozen, line etc)

[hkl8324]

Sorry to say but obviously you only read my topic but not the message itself...

[iggiv]

OK, i am sorry then

[Colbster]

First, long streaks are not particularly hard to find, even during a casual evening at a casino.  More to the point, there are table limits that recognize the theoretical strength of the Martingale.  The table limits are set to prevent you from rising to the bet levels that you would need to endure even modest bad streaks.  The Martingale will always eventually win without the constraints that these tables have built into them which prevent you from betting more than a certain amount.

[ego]

You should know that any simulation is the same thing as real life, because your never endeing session or personal permanenze will have the same negative expectation.
You can not beat roulette with positive or negative progression or flat betting.
You can not make a living playing roulette.

There is members who claim they can win more then they lose, but they can not show you how they do it, they only say they can.
I tell you this because you are new.

If you spend time at gambling forums you will not find any solution to play the game, because all system fails.
I have never seen any one show a method that make regular profits and i have been around from 2006.

The only way losing less and more slowly is to apply money management and try to enjoy the happy moements.

[ddarko]

You should know that any simulation is the same thing as real life, because your never endeing session or personal permanenze will have the same negative expectation.
You can not beat roulette with positive or negative progression or flat betting.
You can not make a living playing roulette.

There is members who claim they can win more then they lose, but they can not show you how they do it, they only say they can.
I tell you this because you are new.

If you spend time at gambling forums you will not find any solution to play the game, because all system fails.
I have never seen any one show a method that make regular profits and i have been around from 2006.

The only way losing less and more slowly is to apply money management and try to enjoy the happy moements.

IF somebody had a system that made regular profits, why on earth would you expect them to show it ?

[ego]

 I don't expect them to show it ,,, becasue i know they can not show it even if they did want to show it,,, because you can not show something that does not exist.
They brag with empty words and are liers.

[Turner]

The main point is that most casino run 24/7/365 like the computer do but if real life we pay for a few hours and go out...
even for pro player. Most if not all the so call catastrophic "lose in row" are automatically dodged when we sleep.
And that is quite random.

I see your logic, but I dont agree with you.

A random number is followed by a random number.

Like this: R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R R

So, I will take out a massive chunk out of these random numbers leaving these 6

R R R R R R

Which ones did I take out? It doesnt matter. They are random.

If I go to the casino and the last 5 numbers were 22,1,1,15,2

The I "go to sleep" as you said, and come back to the casino 2 days later and play 33,14,11,25

I have played 22,1,1,15,2,33,14,11,25

IMO, what spun during my break is of no consequence.

[ati]

When you play just 1 to 2 hours even the classic Mar tingle system will get you a win most of the time will some waiting time (gambler fallacy?)

This is why. Most of the time is not every time, and if you have played long enough with progressions, you would know that one loss, is usually bigger, then 50 wins combined.
See my recent results attached playing the smallest 1c and 5c units. The only loss happened when I lost connection, and couldn't continue. As you can see, I win most of the time, but if something goes wrong, I won't stop with the progression, and my loss will be huge. It happened only 2 weeks ago, when I had almost 2 months nonstop winning, and then one loss wiped out everything.
The only way to stop the big loss, is to not have much money on your account, but a big bankroll is necessary to recover in progression systems.

[ddarko]

I don't expect them to show it ,,, becasue i know they can not show it even if they did want to show it,,, because you can not show something that does not exist.
They brag with empty words and are liers.

& just out of interest how are you so sure, that no winning system can exist ?

Because nobody has posted one here ?

Because you haven't got said system ?

Humour me please, I'm interested.....

Thxs

[ego]

I know how to beat the wheel and is not done using systems.

[ddarko]

I know how to beat the wheel and is not done using systems.

there you go an answer, thank you......

Your an AP player & 1 in 1000, great, nice one, good for you 

& that explains WHY you think no system can possible ever win.....

ONLY AP play beats roulette, NOTHING else is possible......

[Tamino]

Taking money  away from the casino on every gambling trip is  no   problem  for a well prepared  and disciplined player.but the party claiming to  win EVERY spin  is either a liar or  a politician.


Tamino

[Chris555p]

I totally agree; Furthermore, in relation to the comments made by Ego, it is not because someone does not wish to show their winning system to everyone on a public forum thay the brag, they lie about their winnings etc......

There are various famous roulette pro players and naturally they will not show their secrets freely for all to see on public forum.