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Vaddis Holy Grail

Started by RFMAXX, Aug 20, 03:35 AM 2015

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Bigbroben

Ok, let's say that a repeater will come at around spin 8,xx on average, with and average cost of 37u.  You can expect a pair hitting at around spin 4,xx, with an average cost of 37 too, if playing both sides.

If focusing on the ''balance'' idea: if no pair has come in 4 spins, or even 8 spins, could we say the nrs are ''off-balance''?  A step1 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8, then play the pairs that did not appear in the last 8 nrs?  To use the hit range mentioned earlier ( 7nrs, 14 spin range, 8nrs, 15 spin range), what if we played the hit nrs and the pairs that did not appear yet on step2?

Just an idea...
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Sparks

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 28, 01:07 PM 2019
Sparks,

what do you think of this one?

damn BBB, that's a lot of work you done there, well done. it's not catching the triggers at the start. the beauty of this method is that as soon as a trigger comes up you can start betting, no need to wait 8 or 10 spins.
also, i see you've used excel's randbetween. This is been proven multiple times not to be reliable for a source of numbers so using this to test excel runs and formulas isn't going to help to tell you if it works or not.

I've attached the set of recorded numbers i use for your future endeavours.

I'm going to start my excel and i'll share my progress, wish me luck

Proofreaders2000

There's this clue: If there are a lot of unique singles on the marquee then unhits
are hitting.  If there are twice-hit singles on the marquee the uniques are hitting. 

If there are numbers that have three hits or more the double-hits are hitting.

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That said, this: If you have eight unique singles bet the next
numerically higher number respectively (eight numbers in play).

Irish88

Sparks,

I just want to make sure I understand how you are playing. You start betting once you get a pair that has hit within 8 spins. You just add the pairs as they come as long as the pair has within 8 spins. If you get a repeater, you add that to your set of numbers. Once you get a hit, you reset looking for 1 pair to hit within 8 spins. Do you ever drop a pair? Say you have bet on it 8 times but you have not hit anything, do you still keep it along with the other pairs till you get a hit?

Thanks for your great work Sparks. Looks good.

Sparks

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 28, 04:42 PM 2019
There's this clue: If there are a lot of unique singles on the marquee then unhits
are hitting.  If there are twice-hit singles on the marquee the uniques are hitting. 

If there are numbers that have three hits or more the double-hits are hitting.

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That said, this: If you have eight unique singles bet the next
numerically higher number respectively (eight numbers in play).

this is very true, i noticed with my original 4pairs/4previous method that if i followed the wheel and bet only pairs when uniques were dropping i was getting a lot of hits. same goes with the doubles etc...

Sparks

Quote from: Irish88 on Jan 28, 04:49 PM 2019
You start betting once you get a pair that has hit within 8 spins. You just add the pairs as they come as long as the pair has within 8 spins. If you get a repeater, you add that to your set of numbers. Once you get a hit, you reset looking for 1 pair to hit within 8 spins.

yes that is correct, and as long as the repeater is within the previous 8 spins also

Quote from: Irish88 on Jan 28, 04:49 PM 2019
Do you ever drop a pair? Say you have bet on it 8 times but you have not hit anything, do you still keep it along with the other pairs till you get a hit?

no i don't drop a pair if it hasn't hit. i noticed it will hit eventually most of the time. although once i have my excel sheet set up properly i will look into that option of dropping non-hits as a stop-loss kind of scenario

Irish88

Quote from: Sparks on Jan 28, 04:54 PM 2019
yes that is correct, and as long as the repeater is within the previous 8 spins also

no i don't drop a pair if it hasn't hit. i noticed it will hit eventually most of the time. although once i have my excel sheet set up properly i will look into that option of dropping non-hits as a stop-loss kind of scenario

Thank you very much for answering. Much appreciated.

Sparks

Quote from: Irish88 on Jan 28, 04:57 PM 2019
Thank you very much for answering. Much appreciated.

Always happy to help where I can  :thumbsup:

Bigbroben

Quote from: Sparks on Jan 28, 04:02 PM 2019
damn BBB, that's a lot of work you done there, well done. it's not catching the triggers at the start. the beauty of this method is that as soon as a trigger comes up you can start betting, no need to wait 8 or 10 spins.
also, i see you've used excel's randbetween. This is been proven multiple times not to be reliable for a source of numbers so using this to test excel runs and formulas isn't going to help to tell you if it works or not.

I've attached the set of recorded numbers i use for your future endeavours.

I'm going to start my excel and i'll share my progress, wish me luck

Thanks, it did not take too long though.  The idea actually applies only once the step1 failed, so the tracking is not needed. Take it the first 8 spins would represent step1.

This being said, I use excel random just to have something to fill.  I've inserted ' IF $X$Y="","" ' so that one can simply fill the nr column spin per spin or copy/paste any other nrs,  without seeing N/A and #REF all over the place because of blank cells.  I will try it with your nrs.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Elite

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 28, 03:36 PM 2019
Ok, let's say that a repeater will come at around spin 8,xx on average, with and average cost of 37u.  You can expect a pair hitting at around spin 4,xx, with an average cost of 37 too, if playing both sides.

If focusing on the ''balance'' idea: if no pair has come in 4 spins, or even 8 spins, could we say the nrs are ''off-balance''?  A step1 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8, then play the pairs that did not appear in the last 8 nrs?  To use the hit range mentioned earlier ( 7nrs, 14 spin range, 8nrs, 15 spin range), what if we played the hit nrs and the pairs that did not appear yet on step2?

Just an idea...
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The idea of pair something like below...

Suppose total 10 no.Game..1 3 5 7 9 came now. To go further. It should either hit double or neighbour.. Same can b applied to 36 numbers.. Pairs must will come and lands will b formed. One thought

Proofreaders2000

Well, here's my idea today  :thumbsup:
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Track nine consecutive unique singles. (qualifier)

Bet the oldest five once.  If hit end session. 

If miss, bet the oldest six once.  If miss,
bet the oldest seven, eight, nine once.

If all nine numbers miss start over tracking
nine new unique singles or end session.
==============================
Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Monday, January 28,2019 @ 11:47pm CST USA

...14,34,17,30,15,26,16,27,19
(newest spin-value)-*nine consecutive uniques

Bet 14,34,17,30,15 once:    1.) 17(win)+31

nichedelico

Guys, i read again the Vaddi's clues, trying without thinking about all the stuff. Tell me if i'm wrong, if i bet 7 numbers, 1-7 on the first stage, with a chip on the split for every number, if i hit at 7th spin a number with the full chip on and half on the split,  the balance goes even, right? So the number can be 7. Vaddi never said first stage bet this second stage bet this, he described only the change from 1 to 2 that is add new number delete the oldest. He said that is simple, probably my thought it's an obviously thing but i've never tried like that. Did that this morning manually and results are good, i think it's easy to code? Simple 1 to 7 with split (one chip on number one on split) and second stage add new delete oldest with the same bet until profit. (i think Proof also said something about 7 or i'm wrong? Please don't kill me if it's an evident and stupid thing  :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:

Bigbroben

Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

nichedelico

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 29, 10:18 AM 2019
You mean this?



Yes! And when the split +1 it's full, put the chip on split -1 , if  splits + 1 and -1 are full, put one plus on split  + 1

Irish88

Quote from: nichedelico on Jan 29, 10:05 AM 2019
Guys, i read again the Vaddi's clues, trying without thinking about all the stuff. Tell me if i'm wrong, if i bet 7 numbers, 1-7 on the first stage, with a chip on the split for every number, if i hit at 7th spin a number with the full chip on and half on the split,  the balance goes even, right? So the number can be 7. Vaddi never said first stage bet this second stage bet this, he described only the change from 1 to 2 that is add new number delete the oldest. He said that is simple, probably my thought it's an obviously thing but i've never tried like that. Did that this morning manually and results are good, i think it's easy to code? Simple 1 to 7 with split (one chip on number one on split) and second stage add new delete oldest with the same bet until profit. (i think Proof also said something about 7 or i'm wrong? Please don't kill me if it's an evident and stupid thing  :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd: :xd:

Dumb question on part. Vaddi did indeed leave clues as to playing splits. But how do you apply the splits in the 3rd column and the pairs chart? This is what I have struggled with. So 3 hits, the pairing number is 4. How do you bet that?

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