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Vaddis Holy Grail

Started by RFMAXX, Aug 20, 03:35 AM 2015

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Proofreaders2000

I have tried it 6th Sense-one there are too many numbers to place a bet in time, too much
info to record on paper (remember Vaddi says you don't even need pen and paper)

Three it's not consistent enough to be viable on Live wheel (although it did okay on RNG)

Elite

with 8 numbers how balance can b created ..

Bigbroben

Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 06, 11:23 PM 2019
I actually wanted to try playing 1-2-3-4-5-5-5-5-5 nrs, for a total of 35u, but unfortunately repeaters came too quick.

So, step1 1-2-3-4.  Then 5x5nrs.  Kept the same 5 nrs on step 2 for 5 spins.  So 9 spins total, 35u on a whole loss.

Just a test, more spins needed.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Proofreaders2000

Hey Bigbroben I'm getting a similar outcome (like your graph)   :thumbsup:

Bigbroben

Alright Proof!  I got a downturn a bit.  178u at spin 400.  Max 331u on spin 258.  Will  code and test tonight.

See PassionR? Anyone can share good looking graphs.  The gutsy part is to explain the process...
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

buffalowizard

Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 07, 01:56 PM 2019
So, step1 1-2-3-4.  Then 5x5nrs.  Kept the same 5 nrs on step 2 for 5 spins.  So 9 spins total, 35u on a whole loss.

Just a test, more spins needed.

What bet selection is this you are using BigRoben?

buffalowizard

Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 07, 02:31 PM 2019
Alright Proof!  I got a downturn a bit.  178u at spin 400.  Max 331u on spin 258.  Will  code and test tonight.

See PassionR? Anyone can share good looking graphs.  The gutsy part is to explain the process...
Yes exactly. And not to become too precious about systems you devise because otherwise you'll not want to share the bad sessions. It's hard but needs to be done

Bigbroben

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 07, 02:33 PM 2019
What bet selection is this you are using BigRoben?

As mentioned.  Play the hits.  1 2 3 4.  With 5nrs, keep them for 5 spins.  Cost: 35u.

Repeaters have different spin gaps between them ("cant catch all repeaters" - vaddi).  You can expect for all repeaters in 8 spins, example, to be evenly distributed from a back to back hit ( gap1) to a gap8.

Cant answer with maths, this is gambler fallacy, but I thought: step1 1 to 4 nrs for short range hits, step2 keep all 5 for 5 spins.  Will allow gaps from 5 to 9 to be hit.  But you'll miss the short ranged hits on step2...  probably no effect on the overall result but it was an idea...
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Irish88

Looks good Ben,

When you lose the 35u after 9 spins, do you go back to the 1-2-3-4 step?

Bigbroben

This what I was doing, yes.

It works when it works,  it is nevertheless vulnerable to wider range hits and is not considering unhits.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

nichedelico

I've played for 5 days (40 min a session 2 times a day in fun mode RNG roulette pro) from 170 units to 650 first way of playing, then a little drawdown of 150 units so i stopped and trying two different things without results and restart from 450 units, second way to play reach me to 713 units. Base bet 0,50 unit on each number.  The first way bet it's like this: 8 number without repeters, bet the +1 +2 and -1-2 pairs  of first 4 number without the "main" number, add newest pairs number every spin and delete oldest of the four, reset on new high. Second way, 8 numbers without repeters, track if there are numbers from the first dozen and bet on +1+2 -1-2 pairs of them without the "main" number ( i think it's the same wich dozen you choose i prefer the first), follow 8 numbers on the marquee and delete the pairs numbers only when the "main number" fall out from first 8. In all two cases if a forward or backward pair are already covered , add anyway the chip from the other number.  For double and single, most of the time with all this pairs, "main" numbers are covered so we hit repeters also. Maybe with other work and improvement it's not a bad way

Bigbroben

Rng roulette pro fun mode:  I read somewhere fun mode is made for you to have fun, win more than normal, and be tempted to put money into real mode.  Can this be?

Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Proofreaders2000

@Bigbroben: RNG fun Roulette is good if you want to test a brand new idea to see
what it looks like on a Roulette table.  Take the results however with a grain of salt.
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A new idea :)  I've been noticing this trend recently

Note the newest four unique outcomes.  Bet the Vaddi
pairs of those four (same numbers) for up to nine spins.

Example: 12,30,9,25 (newest spin-value)

Bet 13,31,10,26 for up to nine spins....

Bigbroben

Testing a new idea here...


Follow the wheel...!
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Irish88

Quote from: Bigbroben on Feb 08, 01:03 AM 2019
Testing a new idea here...


Follow the wheel...!

Ben,

Can I ask how many numbers you are playing? Are you adding one number as each new number comes out? Bet each pair 8 times. If it doesn't hit in 8 spins you drop it.

Vaddi quote

Follow what the wheel does.

Look at the marquee and copy EXACTLY what the wheel does.



I have said before that pairs chart might be just a hint or clue as to look at roulette numbers. Maybe it's as simple as taking the hit number and adding the number forward on the wheel.

Example on American wheel.

11 hits you would also add 7
14 hits you would also add 2

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