Vaddis Holy Grail

[moreno]

Guys Vaddi talking about a formula in their postings, regarding balance.

What do you think?

In a post (Wish I could openly share Roulette Grail)
he writes:

I wish I could openly share my roulette grail. However, I'll provide some clues:

- You need to make inside bets

- You MUST bet on a set of numbers that consist of less than 10 numbers (I won't give the exact number. When you discover this number, it creates perfect balance on each 37-spin rotation)

- Those numbers that you select must be consistently selected from the top of the marquee

- Here's the genius killer aspect of the GRAIL to figure out: How do you make sure that you hit every single number that comes up on the roulette wheel?

- Think in terms of hits and what the roulette wheel MUST do: "It MUST hit repeats". But, how do the repeats perform in relation to the singles?

   Clues:
 
   For the most part: every 37 spin results in ...

   24 hits = 14 singles + 10 doubles

Once you discover the grail, you won't need to visit forums any more or buy roulette software.

You don't even need pen and paper. Simply look at the first set of numbers on the marquee. Although, I do like using my software to watch the beauty of how the numbers fall.

Once you discover the grail, you would be able to spend 5 minutes explaining it to a 10-year-old and if he/she is allowed to play, he/she would make a killing.

BTW, let me emphasize: THIS IS ALL FLAT BETTING.

I'm posting this because I hate to see players barking up the wrong tree and struggling.

Thinking about odds is irrelevant. It's about how the singles and repeats fall.

Once you discover the grail, you'll be thinking:

"No f*ing way. It can't be this simple!" But, it is that simple!

I can't share the simple formula because it would be shared like crazy and the casinos would scrap the game entirely. I'm serious. No joke.

You can't blame me for that can you?

You can't blame me for holding onto a simple formula that guarantees riches.

Figure out the grail and quit your day job and live a life of relaxation.

I do hope this post helps to positively change the fortunes of those players who can read between the lines and discover that virtually everything said about roulette is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.

Einstein would have been proud of this roulette solution, which is so elegant; so simple.

All the best.

Vaddi
« Last Edit: May 27, 2013, 09:57:33 AM by Vaddi »

[moreno]

Next postig from Vaddis :


General guidelines and more tips:
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Let's assume that 10 is the maximum of numbers that you will bet on.

Stage 1) Begin single sequence to X numbers (where X represents the maximum numbers that you will bet on)

You enter casino and the number ...

13 has just dropped. Place your unit chip on it. (1 unit in total)

30 drops instead. Now place a unit on 13 and 30 (2 units total)

17 drops instead. Now place a unit on 13, 30, and 17 (3 units total)

13 drops. You win and make a profit.

Because you are in profit and because you have not reached your X number limit of 10, you will continue the process all over again, by placing a unit chip on your last dropped number, which is 13. You will continue this process of betting on every number that drops.

Now, as I've said, "The X number is important" and it's not 10 .

As another clue, I suggest that you create a stepping sequence (like above) wherein if you hit the last number in that sequence, you will break even.

If you use 10, you will have 10 numbers on the table if you reach your 10-number limit. And, if the ball lands on that last set of 10, you'll make a small loss and the funny thing is that 10 numbers doesn't improve accuracy over the lower, perfect X number.

Stage 2)

If you do not make a hit within the first stage, that means that you have bet X times on X numbers. That is 10 spins, 10 numbers, no hits.

So, you might have something like this:

36  (The last number dropped)
---
19  (part of your 10-number X group)
14  (part of your 10-number X group)
25  (part of your 10-number X group)
17  (part of your 10-number X group)
31  (part of your 10-number X group)
13  (part of your 10-number X group)
0    (part of your 10-number X group)
3    (part of your 10-number X group)
22  (part of your 10-number X group)
2   (part of your 10-number X group)

At this point, your set of 10 didn't come up. And the last number that landed is 36.

So, the idea is to bet on every number that the wheel spits out, but you want to always place a limit on how much you place on the table. Betting on 10 numbers is a waste, so find that magic X number.

From this point onward you will bet on 10 numbers (or the X number when you discover it).

But, this is what you do:

Knock the #2 off the bottom so that your new 10-set bet selection now becomes ...

36  (part of your new 10-number X group)
19  (part of your new 10-number X group)
14  (part of your new 10-number X group)
25  (part of your new 10-number X group)
17  (part of your new 10-number X group)
31  (part of your new 10-number X group)
13  (part of your new 10-number X group)
0    (part of your new 10-number X group)
3    (part of your new 10-number X group)
22  (part of your new 10-number X group)

If the next spin hits one of your X numbers, then great! But, you must check to see if you have increased your bankroll above what you started with at Stage 1.

If you are in profit above where your bankroll was when you started with at Stage 1, then go back to Stage 1 and place a unit chip on the last number that made you win.

If you are not in profit at this point in Stage 2, then continue playing your X-number blocks (in this example: 10) by knocking off the bottom number and adding the number that landed.

So, let's say #31 landed (you win) and your bankroll is below the level when you first placed your first single unit at Stage 1. In this case, ...

... you'll only bet on 9 numbers. Wink Why? You're following the pattern and spins of the wheel. The wheel is telling you that you're accurate so you need to lay out less on the table:

You're thinking in terms of number of numbers and number of spins.

So, we now have ...

31  (The last number dropped)
---
36  (part of your new 10-number X group)
19  (part of your new 10-number X group)
14  (part of your new 10-number X group)
25  (part of your new 10-number X group)
17  (part of your new 10-number X group)
31  (part of your new 10-number X group)
13  (part of your new 10-number X group)
0    (part of your new 10-number X group)
3    (part of your new 10-number X group)
22  (part of your new 10-number X group)

Looking at the 10 last spins, you now only need to bet on 9 by knocking off #22 and adding #31. But, of course, #31 is slap bang in the middle of your X number set (it's not at the bottom, where you would knock it off).

Of course, if you discover the X number, sometimes you end up betting on lower numbers than 9, while making hits.

Once your bankroll is in profit above what you started with at the first placing of your first-stage single chip, then start the first-stage single chip process all over again.

Another aspect you can observe and experiment with, is multiple 37-spin cycles, starting from Stage 1 + Stage 2, as described in this post.

All the best.

- Vaddi

P.S.: Should have added the following:

If you break even when one of your numbers hit, then go back and start Stage 1 all over again.

Which means, if at any stage ... let's say your bankroll was $1200 and it went down, and then you get a hit that takes you back to $1200, you would re-start Stage 1 and bet on the number that just hit.

« Last Edit: June 01, 2013, 05:31:07 PM by Vaddi »

[moreno]

Quote from: ombrerico on June 01, 2013, 05:05:23 PM
My dear Vaddi, thanks to your generous kindness and genius will be able to create Harvest Grail, or should call Harvest Vaddi? In honor of Genius Vaddi.  Cool

Ornery Vaddi the Grail is discovered by you even long-term winner, and gathering all the tips you gave us, is only a matter of time and many test so Harvest discover what sequence of numbers that can win in the long term and there is only joy.

1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 = 36 This must be the secret number

Now all I need is to Harvest 100 000 test cycles 37 and see if there is increasing profit or everything ends as always in balance.

Thank Vaddi

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Yep, I see that little magic number that is smaller than 10. And, just look at how it's perfectly placed in relation to posts about break-even. That position is absolutely perfect in that sequence of numbers. Absolutely perfect. Smiley

Here's another thought: each 37-spin cycle is never the same, and each 37-spin cycle produces its own dominant numbers. That's why there is no such thing as hot numbers per se. Smiley Because all numbers eventually become "hot numbers" in their own respective 37-spin cycle, so as to maintain long-term equilibrium of all the numbers over time.

- Vaddi

[moreno]

Vaddi Yes, I can test with Live Roulette.

Maybe also work with rng, but at least it works in Live is a miracle in our lives.

I'm a little confused with the three phases of the grail.

1st Phase bet 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8
  if you lose
2nd Phase bet block of 8 numbers following upgrade
3rd Phase decrease a bet block number 7 following upgrade

What is the time to move from phase 2 to phase 3?
When we stop betting phase 3?
The 3 phases must occur within 37 spins?
When done 37 spins we start phase 1? Huh?


Vaddi Text;:

If you are betting on 8 numbers and they are not hit, then you would remove the oldest number in your 8-set and add the number that just landed. So, you are changing your 8-number by one number after each wheel spin.

That means that each number of your 8-number set is placed 8 times on the table.

There are only two phases:

* 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 (stepped sequence)

* 8-blocks

For 8-blocks example: say you miss all 8 of ...

2
7
9
12
16
3
36
29

Let's say that the last number landed that missed your 8-set is 20.

Then your next 8-bet is ...

20
2
7
9
12
16
3
36

If you now get a hit on 12, your next 8-bet is ...

12
20
2
7
9
12
16
3

However, in this 8-set, you have the same #12, appearing twice, so you actually bet on ...

12, 20, 2, 7, 9, 16, 3 = 7 numbers

So, before you start playing, you look at your bankroll and make a note of the amount.

You begin at the beginning: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8. If you increase your bankroll or break even at this stage, you go back to the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 process and place a single bet on the last landed number that made you win or break even.

If you lose the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 process, you are then at the block stage as described previously:

2
7
9
12
16
3
36
29

etc.

Also, if you break even or increase your bankroll at the block stage in comparison to what your bankroll was at the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 stage, then go back to 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 where you will begin all over again by placing a single chip on the last landed number.

The 37-spin cycle is not of the greatest importance as such, because you can play the system for long period sessions. However, you should make a profit within 185 spins.

Also, for your own knowledge and understanding, it's a good idea to see how your bankroll performs every 37 spins (= 37 bets in terms of single and group bets) and up to the range of 185 spins (= 185 bets in terms of single and group bets).

Of course, 185 = 37 x (5 cycles)

I've played up to 296 spins (8 cycles) and discovered that doing so is a waste of time because better and faster profits are within 24 - 74 spins.

I would say keep the spins below 185 = (5 cycles). You don't have to go this far as a regular occurrence.

But, as you can appreciate, you need to test these things personally.

Hope that helps.

- Vaddi
« Last Edit: June 02, 2013, 12:48:46 AM by Vaddi »

[Elite]

Vaadi gave 3 systems, first 10 numbers,, repeaters, it failed, then 2nd Holy grail, as posted above, that also failed, and 3rd is La Bomba, variation of 2nd system, after that we don't know what happened,,

[nottophammer]

More-no
You have not pasted the pairings idea.
More-no; google roulette simulator. There you can see players winning games and more often than not, losing games.
Just hit the more button in their game history page and you'll see the stream of numbers played.
You can see Vaddi idea's and see it does not hit enough.

[moreno]

Hello NOTTOPHAMM,

thank you very much for your hints.
I accidentally found this posting by Vaddi
and thought that might help with the search for an answer.
You write I have to "Just hit the more button in their game history page and you'll see the stream of numbers played",
do you mean in this forum?
Many thanks 
Moreno

[nottophammer]

More-no

No, you will have to google and ask for roulette simulator.
It's better than the one on RF forum.

[moreno]

Hello nottophammer,
I feel very lucky to have received your thoughtful advice.
Thank you for your kindness and time in helping me to navigate this situation.
Your wisdom was exactly what we needed here in the forum!
Thanks !!!

[moreno]

hi guys, 

surely here in forum everyone is looking for answer to Vaddi's Holy Grail.
I can't understand something.
The well-known forum member PASSION RULETA who studied Vaddis
Holy Grail and knows the answer writes the following in an explanation for Vaddis:

"This is the complete knowledge about vaddis, the only thing that would
be missing would be how to mix the two states to win as vaddis says,
although I really think I know how it does, but playing both states
is played at too many or it's really not out of all defined.

.........I don't think I have to say anything else, I think this makes it very clear.
I'm studying the way to play both states as I mention edintitated in the base,
but if I do that, I end up playing the same numbers as looking at the last 37 spins,
so it's playing a lot of numbers and it's the same .


Why does he say
"It could be 6 turns or even less, but I've done tests and it's not profitable",
differently in forums he writes that the system is good
and makes secrets of it?

[moreno]

hi guys, 

surely here in forum everyone is looking for answer to Vaddi's Holy Grail.
I can't understand something.
The well-known forum member PASSION RULETA who studied Vaddis
Holy Grail and knows the answer writes the following in an explanation for Vaddis:

"This is the complete knowledge about vaddis, the only thing that would
be missing would be how to mix the two states to win as vaddis says,
although I really think I know how it does, but playing both states
is played at too many or it's really not out of all defined.

.........I'm studying the way to play both states as I mention edintitated in the base, but if I do that, I end up playing the same numbers as looking at the last 37 spins, so it's playing a lot of numbers and it's the same.
The only option of playing both states would be to further reduce the turns to watch.

It could be 6 turns or even less, but I've done tests and it's not profitable, I was right Jun.
Well I think with this to be clear and when I can I will make videos for you to see it!



Why does he say
"It could be 6 turns or even less, but I've done tests and it's not profitable",
differently in forums he writes that the system is good
and makes secrets of it?

[d80]

Hello moreno.I have too studied vaddis..but i m not sure if this system really exist.Because Vaddis never show any result or proof.

[d80]

Vaddis tips is very confuse because not is only mix the 2 states..Vaddis too say for observe how the pairs numbers connect at each 4 spins ..

[nottophammer]

Okay, I don’t think Vaddi is a winning method; solely because using 1st 8 spins does not win enough, even after seeing Luck of the Irish’s data.
I don’t think Gordon or Sergio really have Vaddi.
If you carry on with the blocks of 8 numbers, again, doesn’t win enough. That’s my thoughts.
So, I’m sitting indoors with my legs up, as I’m having an RA flare, that’s what GP and consultant say. Ankle and right knee are giving me gip.
Okay, here’s some thoughts on using pairings.
You see the mat has it’s 3 groups of 12 numbers, the dozens. You observe 4 spins. If you have 4 spins and have all 3 dozen in the 4 spins, bet the 4 numbers with their pairing, going forward and backwards.
You bet 3 times, changing the numbers as you spin.
If you win, watch next 4 spins, if one of the dozens is missing keep spinning until all 3, dozens are in the 4 spins.
If you lose 3 spins of betting; up to you if you carry on with a 12 number progression.

[nottophammer]

reminds me of grandpaa's way a little.