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Vaddis Holy Grail

Started by RFMAXX, Aug 20, 03:35 AM 2015

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Badger

No. Just worked it out a few days ago. I have not played it in a casino.
But I can see mathematically why it works.
This is what VADDI said about it :

"I won't go into the basic mathematics of this magic number, because it would just confuse some guys even more than they might already be.
Suffice it to say that I know why this number is so powerful in roulette. The casino can't escape it and the player can't escape it."

The maths is simple and is all over the roulette forums where repeater systems are involved.
The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance ; it is the illusion of knowledge.
Daniel J Boorstin.

Badger

Number of trials needed to get first number is: 1.00
Number of trials needed to get 2 different numbers is 2.00
Number of trials needed to get 3 different numbers is 3.00
Number of trials needed to get 4 different numbers is 4.00
Number of trials needed to get 5 different numbers is 5.00
Number of trials needed to get 6 different numbers is 6.00
Number of trials needed to get 7 different numbers is 8.00
Number of trials needed to get 8 different numbers is 9.00
Number of trials needed to get 9 different numbers is 10.00
Number of trials needed to get 10 different numbers is 11.00
Number of trials needed to get 11 different numbers is 13.00
Number of trials needed to get 12 different numbers is 14.00
Number of trials needed to get 13 different numbers is 16.00
Number of trials needed to get 14 different numbers is 17.00
Number of trials needed to get 15 different numbers is 19.00
Number of trials needed to get 16 different numbers is 21.00
Number of trials needed to get 17 different numbers is 22.00
Number of trials needed to get 18 different numbers is 24.00
Number of trials needed to get 19 different numbers is 26.00
Number of trials needed to get 20 different numbers is 28.00
Number of trials needed to get 21 different numbers is 30.00
Number of trials needed to get 22 different numbers is 33.00
Number of trials needed to get 23 different numbers is 35.00
Number of trials needed to get 24 different numbers is 38.00 <== This is the "law of the third"
Number of trials needed to get 25 different numbers is 41.00
Number of trials needed to get 26 different numbers is 44.00
Number of trials needed to get 27 different numbers is 47.00
Number of trials needed to get 28 different numbers is 51.00
Number of trials needed to get 29 different numbers is 55.00
Number of trials needed to get 30 different numbers is 60.00
Number of trials needed to get 31 different numbers is 65.00
Number of trials needed to get 32 different numbers is 71.00
Number of trials needed to get 33 different numbers is 78.00
Number of trials needed to get 34 different numbers is 88.00
Number of trials needed to get 35 different numbers is 100.00
Number of trials needed to get 36 different numbers is 118.00

or as VADDI put it :

24/8 = 3
12/4 = 3

The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance ; it is the illusion of knowledge.
Daniel J Boorstin.

Badger

I must just say that I can confirm the bet from LOTT with hindsight.
I did not work the bet out using maths.
Once you find the 1%, you will see that the maths is obvious.
The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance ; it is the illusion of knowledge.
Daniel J Boorstin.

Proofreaders2000

It is still 1/37 Euro Wheel and
1/38 American Wheel each spin.

And most casinos do not allow bets after ball release.

How can we increase the accuracy
of predictions with this limited information?

Proofreaders2000

Here's an idea to try  :thumbsup:
==============================
Procedure: Bet the newest repeat single, newest
outcome and the next numerically higher number once.

Repeat steps until in profit.

Example: 12,9,32,14,27,31,2,
33,14,11,1,21 (newest spin-value)

Bet 14,21,22 once:    1.) 0(x)

Bet 14,0,1....

Bankroll suggestion: 144 total units

Badger

VADDI used LOTT to explain about balance with respect to repeaters.
It is logical that the more numbers that come out, the greater your chance of getting a repeat.
LOTT shows that on average, you need 7 to 8 numbers before a repeat shows. I know that you can get a repeat on spin 2, but we are talking averages.
From Notto’s research you can see that he gets 1 repeat in the first 10 spins quite regularly.
At the end of the 37 spin cycle, you should on average, have 12 repeats. Where do these repeats occur the most?

This is the balance that VADDI says to look for.
Could it mean that you start off playing the paired numbers and later in the 37 spin cycle change to the actual repeaters?

Also bear in mind that at the end of the 37 spin cycle, you have on average 12 repeats. But those repeats are not 12 different numbers. They could contain 1peaters, 2peaters, 3peaters etc

Also. If you are resorting to progressions to win, then you are not playing the bet that VADDI described.
The biggest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance ; it is the illusion of knowledge.
Daniel J Boorstin.

Kattila

There is no magic numbers and other hocus pocus. ..and  short winning examples like PR posted means nothing.
  I can post al day long winning sessions, and not short ones, xx xxx spins sessions.
  Each one must find own way to play in order to win more then lose. Base your play on Statistics, where is more likely to hit the
repeaters and combine with splits, streets, or neighbors......Groups of numbers are much better if play repeaters stile, involve hit and unhit numbers.

nottophammer

Quote from: Kattila on Jun 17, 08:31 AM 2018if play repeaters stile, involve hit and unhit numbers.

Yes its all in ROTT topic
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Kattila

260 sessions x 200 spins each ,that is
52.000 spins. I saw system goes down to
hell after 200k spins also flat bet
Just don t call HG untill you are not sure or
not tested with much more spins and people here don t like the...""I have the HG but I want tell you"" .....you help them with
nothing this way. Go and make money man
until your system rezist, will come the day
when will eventually crash.
    But I really wish you to win long.
Saludos

nottophammer

who says don't bet  the 1x's, it's no different to doing the KFC.
Better to watch the trot of the 37 non-hit.

Now if you lot listen to General dickhead and his sidekick, thats down to you.
Who says there's always a game, he's right, you just have to know how to play the starting 37.

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer



Just 1x's, Have a look at GUT, watch how the 0x's, 1x's and >1x show in 37 spins, better still look to 40 spins or further still 60 spins.

You talk of balance, 0x's 1st, then 0x's v 1x's, then 0x's+1x's v >1x; that's it, so go learn the TROT
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

could put this in 6th sense topic 37 basic, but you see the above was just betting 1x's.
Now general dickhead the 1/37 bollox.
Here you see the common 9/10;
I've added countback the average 15 non-hit in spins 11-40.
Look KTF +53 spin 19, job done, so this is where we reset go to another wheel or what ever you'd do.



How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

The General

Notto,

Why did you quit on spin 19 instead of spin 20 or spin 21?

Why can't you play more than 19 spins?

Do you just play for 19 spins and then go home, never to play again?

I've noticed that the spin that you quit on varies.  Why is that?  It appears that it's because you look ahead to cherry pick when you "should of, would of quit."   FYI...that's called curve fitting.  ::)
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

nottophammer

Okay
Now some curve fitting, but not if you can read the trot, countback is there to show how the non-hit are behaving, fast, avg or slow.

A piece of the puzzle, that you need to know.


This showing betting for the 17th non-hit, means 16 non-hits have come, so you be betting 21#'s. In UK bookies on their FOBT's, i could bet 4 times that would be max bet of £100. So i'd need to wait 5 spins before start to bet. Or safer be wait 6 spins, but decisions have to be made as spins come.



Let's get it thru to dickhead, KTF you shouldnot be going beyond spin 19, okay

Now  at spin 20 the game is fast for non-hit, +2 on the average 5 that should hit in spins 11-20, look to countback.
Heres why you need to know average to hit and max for each non-hit, the box above.

This is fast for non-hit there should only been 14 non-hit at spin 20, look how far non-hit 17 is, Repeats, are needed to slow the non-hits down, if i was to bet for the 17th i'd wait 5 spins, and get the win and countback shows the 17th is on time, d'yu to repeats.
When do R1's go R2 usually after spin 20, so repeats have now slowed the non-hit
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

The General

QuoteLet's get it thru to dickhead, KTF you shouldnot be going beyond spin 19, okay

So what do you do then?  Do you only play for 19 spins and then go home, never to play again or do you have to wait a certain amount of time before you can play again?

On some of your little graphs you quit at spin 15.  On others you quit later.  Why?

You can't win dirt if you're not able to play for more than 19 spins kid!  ::)
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

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