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#### d80

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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 01, 11:01 PM 2021
I'm not interested in this system but here you have my 2 cents.

Magic number as you say Jay is 8 coz 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 +7 + 8 = 36

If you fail the 8 bets you'll be -36 and you start over again with a new set of numbers (1+2+3,etc) if you have a hit in step 3 then you win 30 chips.

You play seeking a repeat inside this ladder of 8 steps.

Just having a boring day so that's my guess.
If this was discussed beforehand have my apologizes. I havent read the thread.

Why do you think its vaddis system? are you have tested it ? vaddis too say at pairs numbers... 0/1 1/2  2/3 etc

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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 03, 09:19 PM 2021
*Kinda tinkering with this puzzle
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-----*Eight Uniques Singles Builder System*-----

Bet each new single outcome.  Bet the last bet also/

Example: #3 (newest outcome)

Bet #3:    1.) 20(x)-1

Bet 3, 20...

If eight unique singles miss, bet those same eight until a hit.

If hit (and not in profit) remove the hit
number and add that number's respective pair.

**Assuming the special number is eight**

Example: 23, 4, 9, 31, 6, 0, 16, 28
(balance -36 units)

Bet 23, 4, 9, 31, 6, 0, 16, 28:    9.) 28(win)+28

Bet 23, 4, 9, 31, 6, 0, 16, 29

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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 07, 09:02 PM 2021
Another tweak, (trying to figure out that missing 0.5%)
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-----*Last Four Outcomes and Less One Number*-----

Note the last four outcomes.  Bet those four
and one respective number less each, once.

Repeat steps with each spin.  Stop when in profit.

Bankroll suggestion: 160 total units

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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 07, 09:11 PM 2021
Paper Test: BetPhoenix American
Wheel-Friday, May 7,2021 @ 7:36pm CDT USA

...10, 24, 2, 31 (newest spin-value)

Bet 10, 9, 24, 23, 2, 1, 31, 30:      1.) 32(x)-8
(in case of 31, 32 outcomes, the bet is 31, 30 & 32, 33)

Bet 24, 23, 2, 1, 31, 30, 32, 33:    2.) 5(x)-8

Bet 2, 1, 31, 30, 32, 33, 5, 4:         3.) 1(win)+28
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Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Friday, May 7,2021 @ 7:41pm CDT USA

...15, 20, 13, 8 (newest spin-value)

Bet 15, 14, 20, 19, 13, 12, 8, 7:    1.) 30(x)-8

Bet 20, 19, 13, 12, 8, 7, 30, 29:    2.) 33(x)-8

Bet 13, 12, 8, 7, 30, 29, 33, 32:    3.) 24(x)-8

Bet 8, 7, 30, 29, 33, 32, 24, 23:    4.) 23(win)+28
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==============================
Paper Test: BetPhoenix American
Wheel-Friday, May 7,2021 @ 7:47pm CDT USA

...7, 20, 20, 24, 10 (newest spin-value)

Bet 7, 6, 20, 19, 24, 23, 10, 9:    1.) 5(x)-8

Bet 20, 19, 24, 23, 10, 9, 5, 4:    2.) 7(x)-8

Bet 24, 23, 10, 9, 5, 4, 7, 6:         3.) 23(win)+28
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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 07, 09:44 PM 2021
I just had a massive "Paper" Loss on American Wheels, so Live European Wheels only.

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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 07, 10:08 PM 2021
Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Friday, May 7,2021 @ 8:46pm CDT USA

...0, 4, 30, 7 (newest spin-value)

Bet 0, 36, 4, 3, 30, 29, 7, 6:    1.) 35(x)-8

Bet 4, 3, 30, 29, 7, 6, 35, 34:    2.) 35(win)+28
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Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Friday, May 7,2021 @ 8:52pm CDT USA

...25, 10, 11, 29 (newest spin-value)
(because of outcomes 10, 11 the bet is 10, 9, 11, 12)

Bet 25, 24, 10, 9, 11, 12, 29, 28:    1.) 25(win)+28
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Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Friday, May 7,2021 @ 8:54pm CDT USA

...11, 29, 25, 20 (newest spin-value)

Bet 11, 10, 29, 28, 25, 24, 20, 19:    1.) 15(x)-8

Bet 29, 28, 25, 24, 20, 19, 15, 14:    2.) 17(x)-8

Bet 25, 24, 20, 19, 15, 14, 17, 16:    3.) 12(x)-8

Bet 20, 19, 15, 14, 17, 16, 12, 11:    4.) 16(win)+28
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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 08, 09:28 PM 2021
*A tweak on the singles builder portion of Vaddi's
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-----*Plus One, Plus Single Builder System*-----

Procedure: Note the newest outcome.  Bet the next number higher.
If win, end session.  Otherwise, repeat bet and add the new trigger number.

Repeat steps until in profit or eight numbers miss.

If eight numbers miss (and still not in profit) remove the oldest
of the singles and add the newest trigger (eight numbers in play).

Stop when in profit.

Bankroll suggestion: 160 total units

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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 08, 09:34 PM 2021
Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Saturday, May 8,2021 @ 8:10pm CDT USA

#33 (newest spin-value)

Bet #34:    1.) 4(x)-1

Bet 34, 5:    2.) 31(x)-2

Bet 34, 5, 32:    3.) 25(x)-3

Bet 34, 5, 32, 26:    4.) 12(x)-4

Bet 34, 5, 32, 26, 13:    5.) 33(x)-5

Bet 34, 5, 32, 26, 13, 34:    6.) 20(x)-6

Bet 34, 5, 32, 26, 13, 34, 21:    7.) 33(x)-7

Bet 34, 5, 32, 26, 13, 34, 21, 34:    8.) 14(x)-8

Bet 5, 32, 26, 13, 34, 21, 34, 15:    9.) 13(win)+28

Bet 32, 26, 13, 34, 21, 34, 15, 14:    10.) 12(x)-8

Bet 26, 13, 34, 21, 34, 15, 14, 13:    11.) 32(x)-8

Bet 13, 34, 21, 34, 15, 14, 13, 33:    12.) 34(win)+64
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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 09, 08:06 PM 2021
Paper Test: BetPhoenix American Wheel-
Sunday, May 9,2021 @ 6:40pm CDT USA

#13 (newest spin-value)

Bet #14:    1.) 7(x)-1

Bet 14, 8:    2.) 35(x)-2

Bet 14, 8, 36:    3.) 7(x)-3

Bet 14, 8, 36, 8:    4.) 34(x)-4

Bet 14, 8, 36, 8, 35:    5.) 18(x)-5

Bet 14, 8, 36, 8, 35, 19:    6.) 00(x)-6

Bet 14, 8, 36, 8, 35, 19, 1:    7.) 2(x)-7

Bet 14, 8, 36, 8, 35, 19, 1, 3:    8.) 29(x)-8

Bet 8, 36, 8, 35, 19, 1, 3, 30:    9.) 2(x)-8

Bet 36, 8, 35, 19, 1, 3, 30, 3:    10.) 8(win)+28

Bet 8, 35, 19, 1, 3, 30, 2, 9:      11.) 23(x)-8

Bet 35, 19, 1, 3, 30, 2, 9, 24:    12.) 0(x)-8

Bet 19, 1, 3, 30, 2, 9, 24, 1:      13.) 00(x)-8

Bet 1, 3, 30, 2, 9, 24, 1, 1:         14.) 30(win)+28

Bet 3, 30, 2, 9, 24, 1, 1, 31:       15.) 35(x)-8

Bet 30, 2, 9, 24, 1, 1, 31, 36:     16.) 24(win)+28
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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 10, 05:51 AM 2021
Luck of the Irish; great job.
This is a test I did in November.  I tested over 1 million single zero RNG spins and got this:

2    3210
3    6251
4    9017
5    10906
6    12398
7    12852  from here the chances are smaller; the lenght does not happen so often.
8    12454   your 8 #'s have lost, What do you do now?
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9    11478
10    10007
11    8619
12    6845
13    5243
14    3857
15    2730
16    1816   if you had bet the 1st 8#'s, but doubled the unit to 2 and bet spins 9-16 at unit of 1. The unique is slowing
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17    1128
18    687
19    355
20    246
21    96
22    61
23    29
24    16  you would have bet spins 1-8 @ 4unit and spins 9-16 @ unit of 2. spins 17-24 @ unit of 1
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25    5
26    3  something would have repeated. Yes it might only have a unit of 1.
27    0
28    0
29    0
30    0
31    0
32    0  you would have bet spins 1-8 @ 8unit and spins 9-16 @ unit of 4. spins 17-24 @ unit of 2 & 25- 32 @ unit of 1
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33    0
34    0
35    0
36    0

The most unique numbers in a row was 25 (The 26 means it hit on the 26th spin, so 25 unique numbers in a row) and this happened only 3 times.
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#### nottophammer

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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 10, 05:53 AM 2021
Random org the best according to GLOAT; General gormless.
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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 10, 05:54 AM 2021
out of 120 numbers. Would it win?
The green are doubled.
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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 10, 06:10 AM 2021
I've done 1st 60. Be betting for non-hits
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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 10, 06:24 AM 2021
2nd group of 60 spins.
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#### Irish88

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##### Re: Vaddis Holy Grail
May 10, 07:56 AM 2021
out of 120 numbers. Would it win?
The green are doubled.

Notto,

May I ask a question? At line 14 how are you betting? So you lose the eight step process. You have the eight numbers highlighted in green and 15 hits. You put two units on the first eight numbers, then one unit on any number that came out after the first eight numbers? What if 15 hit which had only one unit on it?  Would you still go back to the original step process?

Thank you