Easy EC

[RayManZ]

I did some more testen with this method. Now on all the EC.

R/B H/L O/E

In 3 mil spins the lowest amount of won bets is 39 out of 111 bets placed.

That is some really useful information.

Say we do a daily session of 111 bets. Not spins! BETS.

We may hit 39 wins early in the sessions. 60 bets placed and won 39. We come back tomorrow. I think P.A really has sometime here.

What we are doing wrong is when we hit a streak we don't stop. On average you will win round 55 bets out of 111 bets. We tend to keep going. Why? Then it all comes down on luck and you will hit the session from hell.

We know this bet will always win 39 bets out of 111. So as soon as we hit 39 wins we quit. Or we wait till me have reached 111 bets placed without betting them en start a new session.

Now we only need to figure out when to bet and how to bet those 39 wins out of 111.

[atlantis]

Thanks raymanz for your tests done on all EC.

And maybe I come to agree with you about:

What we are doing wrong is when we hit a streak we don't stop. On average you will win round 55 bets out of 111 bets. We tend to keep going. Why? Then it all comes down on luck and you will hit the session from hell.

Now this sounds similar to PA's system that he posted when he first came to the forum - so maybe some clues there too...!
That was when he was actually posting an example of his bet! Here is the thread  - just to refresh your memory;

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15759.msg136258#msg136258

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[denzie]

39 is the lowest...ok
55 is everage...ok

So if we would wait till we get close to 111 then we would have a pretty good idea what we need to do. Or start from let's say 40hits ? As 39 probably not happening a lot. 1u x10 ...2u x10....we go up +1u each new 111 bets.

But in real time...we talking about bets...that gonna take to long.
What P.A. said is correct.  But how we play this on a daily basis without  sitting there 12hours a day ?

Denzie

[RayManZ]

I would not wait.

If you wait 90 bets you could have missed 39 wins of your 111 bets.

I would use a progression and virtual wins. You know there will be 39 wins right in 111 bets.

So i would do the following:
- Count the bets and the wins.
- Hit 39 wins or 111 bets: End session
- 3 losses wait for a Virtual win (a virtual win is also a win for counting)
- Use a good EC progression. Not sure which is good though...

That would make a profit on a daily base i think. You catch winning streaks. Avoid losing streaks. Use the edge in your advantage. Stop on 39 bets won or 111 bets.

Tadaaaa Holy grail!

[ignatus]

played with a positive progression, seems to work very well! 

2u bet after a win(for the next trigger)--until lose back to 1u,..and so on

The rules are the same -always wait for a virtual win after a loss, before betting again

[denzie]

Sorry to ask...but what would the results are for red/black?
The average we all know but what about the minimum hits?

Just curious as we can play faster...

[denzie]

I just ask so we can find the best bet selection to make our grail.
Good job Ignatus

[RayManZ]

Sorry to ask...but what would the results are for red/black?
The average we all know but what about the minimum hits?

Just curious as we can play faster...

BETS: 111: 34 won - 77 lost

Lowest for Red Black only in 3mil spins. Just aim for 30 wins in 111 bets. With the right progression and betting strategy it will always get you profit. But if you want to win big you need to bet big.

I think a session will get you max 30 units. But daily 30 units of profit is always nice.

[denzie]

I'll take that any day those 30.lol
Thank you so much...you are a great help here.
Now i will try to put the right progression on it.

Denzie

[ignatus]

Positive progression has proven to have a neutral trend, (guess i was very lucky from the first test!)

Yes 30u would be a good wingoal for this one....(?)

I'm pretty much giving up on this strategy.....since it's not realistic to sit for 100s or 1000s spins for just a few units profit??

played with 5u bets:

[atlantis]

Hi raymanz, ignatus, denzie.

I played a session to 111 spins using Red/Black EC.
There were 29 bets. (would have stopped at 30?)
18w and 11L
Profit = +9u
Played only after VIRTUAL wins. If a loss occurred waited for a VIRTUAL win on that side of the EC before resuming at the trigger.
**Bet ONCE ONLY (win or lose await next trigger)


example

R
B
B - vwin B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                          +1
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                          +2
R
R - vwin R
B - trigger to bet B
R - lost; reset B; trigger to bet R     +1
R - won                                         +2
B
R - trigger to bet R
B - lost ; reset R                            +1
B - vwin B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                         +2
B
B
B
B
R
B - trigger to bet B
B - won                                         +3

NOTE:
I use separate progression for each side of the EC. (currently using best of 5)

This also avoids bets on lot of choppy results:

R
B
R
B
R
B
R
B
R

no virtual wins - so no bets!

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[denzie]

@ignatus...it's good that it stay around neutral. Just stop when your up and don't get greedy. Before it goes down again. And about the time playing. ...if we use fast rng spins we can get 1spins/2-3seconds.
Most people be ok to play 1-2hours if they end in profit 

@Atlantis. ..i see you stopped stopping ^^ .... again very good results..i will do a few 111 sessions tomorrow with your tweak. Thx

[RayManZ]

You need to play 111 BETS not Spins. Just stop when you get 30 winning BETS. With the right money management you should get a profit.

The key is to find the right money management strategy for a EC bet.

[atlantis]

Hi Raymanz;

Oh sure! I forgot. (been a long day) You're right. Well I think I would still have won...
I'm happy with the formula I showed for now in reply #40; but its great to see the other ideas too.
Will do more correct tests tomorrow.

You need to play 111 BETS not Spins. Just stop when you get 30 winning BETS. With the right money management you should get a profit.

The key is to find the right money management strategy for a EC bet.

Thanks raymanz for correcting.  
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[RayManZ]

How does "Best of 5" works?