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Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

Started by onetaste, Nov 02, 10:29 AM 2015

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paulee

Progressions have a habit of taking your whole bank roll when you least expect it.

RouletteGhost

Quote from: thelaw on Nov 30, 10:58 AM 2015
Thanks to Denzie for this info (via PM)! :)

I always want transparency, so here it is for everyone to see :

"I'll give you a push in the right direction.
Combo's : 123 - 132 - 213 - 231 - 321 -312
Bet 1 time/trigger( example on 123)
Wait a virtual loss first

132
311
123 ----> virtual loss
312
222
122 -----> win

And this for all 6 combo's but they have separate progression.
1-3-9 and stay on 9 till recovered.

Or just bet against last 3 that came.
322
Now bet against that."


Now I have to admit; this appears to be a superior bet to 1-2-3.

Even flat-betting, it looks pretty good. Not perfect.......it can fail, but the W/L record on this is pretty impressive.
:thumbsup:

Betting against last 3 as ego pointed out is good

But i had some bad losers so worried me

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

thelaw

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Nov 30, 11:03 AM 2015
Betting against last 3 as ego pointed out is good

But i had some bad losers so worried me

If you try the first bet selection, you might be surprised.

I'm not a fan of the last 3........but I think he was referring to the following :

233

233 (virtual loss)

212 (actual win)

Still pretty risky, which is why I like the first selection. You're placing bets all over the place........one might be 2 spins after your pattern......while another might be 20 spins after. :thumbsup:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

RouletteGhost

Will test this evening thanks for sharing
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

atlantis

Quote
"I'll give you a push in the right direction.
Combo's : 123 - 132 - 213 - 231 - 321 -312


I play the 1-2-3 when it shows (in any combo) as above and stop after first bet whether win or lose. EG:

1
3
2 - 132 combo so play 1-1 on d2 and d3
2 - won 1                                                     +1
1
3 - 213 combo so play 1-1 on d1 and d3
3 - won 1                                                     +2
3
1
2 - 312 combo so play 1-1 on d1 and d2
3 - lost 2                                                      +0
   - 123 combo so play 2-2 on d2 and d3
3 - won 2                                                      +2
2
1 - 321 combo so play 1-1 on d2 and d3
2 - won 1                                                      +3
3 - 123 combo so play 1-1 on d2 and d3
2 - won 1                                                      +4
1 - 321 combo so play 1-1 on d1 and d2
2 - won 1                                                      +5

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

RouletteGhost

Atlantis thats playing the opposite of the dozen 3 spins back dvery 3 spins?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

vladir

Quote from: ego on Nov 30, 05:46 AM 2015
Thas is what i say Before - but with other Words - play agains't the past Three dozen hits - then you Always play against 27 combinations.
If one Group of Three repeat you will have six in a row.

Yes ... how many times can a Group of Three repeat? if you take one dozen it repeat 13 times in a row once during 1 million trails.
So for one group of Three to repeat four to five times would be pretty rare.

One can use GLC progression into Three levels - 1 3 9 and 3 9 27 and 9 27 87
If you play without trigger you will cover 12 in a row and if you start from six you will never lose the hole progression with Three levels as you cover 15 in a row.
The question is how they come back to back and several losing strings during your play.
I have not test this progression - but it looks good.

As we play in the short run so will we maybe never see 13 in a row during our time gambling - but if we are really unlucky we could encounter 13 in a row.

So i been thinking to code this into RX code - but not as system - i would like to code it to show statistics.
That way i can run RX and see how many times one Group repeat during 1 million trails tracking all 27 combinations.

Or do you have other suggestion?

Cheers

I have a sugestion, based on the (limmited) test's I made, the killer sequences where usually from sequences with 1 or 2 dozens (things like 112, 313, 222, 333,etc... seem to be common killers for this). However the most I found of 123 was 12312312[2] (win on the last 2, it did not repeat a 3rd time)

So, my sugestion is to bet every spin against the last shown 3 distinct consecutive dozen combo (wich can be 123,132,213,231,312,321).  On a loss, use the proposed GLC progression.until on a new + ...or loss on the 3rd level of progression.

In other words, if I have 123, I start betting against 123 forming again every spin until a new combo of 3 unique numbers appears, then I drop the 123 and I use the new combo instead. Example:

223311123 (first 3 different dozens in a row, so from now on we play against 123)
113321 (321 shows, so now we drop 123, and start betting against 321 showing again)
2223312 (312 shows, so this is our new bet) and so on...

I would like to see a test on this.
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

thelaw

Quote from: thelaw on Nov 30, 10:58 AM 2015
Thanks to Denzie for this info (via PM)! :)

I always want transparency, so here it is for everyone to see :

"I'll give you a push in the right direction.
Combo's : 123 - 132 - 213 - 231 - 321 -312
Bet 1 time/trigger( example on 123)
Wait a virtual loss first

132
311
123 ----> virtual loss
312
222
122 -----> win

And this for all 6 combo's but they have separate progression.
1-3-9 and stay on 9 till recovered.

Or just bet against last 3 that came.
322
Now bet against that."


Now I have to admit; this appears to be a superior bet to 1-2-3.

Even flat-betting, it looks pretty good. Not perfect.......it can fail, but the W/L record on this is pretty impressive.
:thumbsup:

A bit of further testing......still too many misses for my taste (flat betting) :sad2:

Definitely better to use only combos of 1-2-3 (2-1-3, 3-2-1, etc), but still difficult to pull ahead......
You sir.......are a monster!!!

RouletteGhost

Test after test on american i see 1 2 3 once every 70 to 100 spins

I dunno about you guys but when it comes to roulette im not askin for much more. Ill make it work

I plan to goto mt airy casino who has $3 airball and use $2 units. This way when 1 2 3 happens i can up the units and recover quick

Im confident i wont see 123123 cause i havent yet on american wheel

I did see 123 occur more on euro the results are much different on american as nottophammer pointed out 231 i think it was may be befter for euro go a few pages back to read what he said
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

nottophammer

Whilst playing your desired combo,keep looking to see if a dozen is sleeping, if using 123, wouldn't it be good to see 1st doz sleeping,you would win every 1st spin till it awakes. The sleeping bit is the ?
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

would this work, have 3 banks,1st bank would be playing 1,2,3, B2 playing 2,3,1 and B3 playing 3,1,2

B1     B2     B3
  1       2       3
  2       3       1
  3       1       2
  1       2             Now zero would be a loss, how to  bet zero? 
  2
                          when lose up the units to your chosen way.
                          COULD WE PLAY THIS WAY,                       
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

When a bank is plus stop betting that bank, eventually all three banks should get plus, just the zero
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

thelaw

Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 30, 02:55 PM 2015
would this work, have 3 banks,1st bank would be playing 1,2,3, B2 playing 2,3,1 and B3 playing 3,1,2

B1     B2     B3
  1       2       3
  2       3       1
  3       1       2
  1       2             Now zero would be a loss, how to  bet zero? 
  2
                          when lose up the units to your chosen way.
                          COULD WE PLAY THIS WAY,                     

Here is an example of the W/L record for this system (flat betting) :

1-2-3
2-3-2
3-1-1
--------

W L W
    W

W L W
    W

L W W
L
W
W L W
    W
L W W
L
W
W L W
    L
    W
W W L
        L
        W
W W L
        W
W W L
        L
        W


***If you cut out the first line, then we only have to make 1-3 instead of 1-3-9 to make a profit***
You sir.......are a monster!!!

thelaw

Full W/L record for 170 spin game :

WWLWWLWLWLWWLWWWWWWWWWWWLWWLLWWLWLWWWLWLLWLWWLLWWLWLWWWWLWWWWWLLLLWLLLWWWLW :question:

You sir.......are a monster!!!

RouletteGhost

you guys are looking a little to deep

im not going to sit at a table for 170 spins

im lookin for 1 win per table. with 1 loser every 70 spins of course it works
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

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