Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[RouletteGhost]

Ultimately what id like to do is play with $25 units. Would require $650 bankroll

Two 3 spin mini sessions a day

Profit $50 and leave

Bet against 1 2 3 only twice

If we lost that we should join the unlucky club

If successful bankroll would be doubled in 3 weeks if going 5 days a week

Then move to $50 units

I will attempt this in december and keep you updated

Hey, i can dream right?

[RouletteGhost]

spin 300 in zumma test

betting against 231 formation

all mini games won

as you can see we saw 1 2 3 ONCE! there it is!

big note here: look at how important the insurance chip is on 0. me? id bet a break even chip, no big chip amounts trying to profit off 0, I mean you can if you want to but this graph shows how important that 0 insurance bet is

such a solid strategy....

if i was at a real wheel live dealer or airball id be DONE at spin #4. I'd win my two units and move on. row 2, and I am out!

see how rare "1 2 3", "2 3 1", "3 1 2" ?? the chances of arriving at the table and one of these happening is 1 in 60-100. good odds. in a 100 spin lot i don't think we will ever see a 1 2 3, 2 3 1, and a 3 1 2 all within the same 100 spin lot. maybe 1 in a million

we can do something along the lines of :
2 mini games against 1 2 3
2 mini games against 2 3 1
2 mini games against 3 1 2

i see dollar signs in my eyes but my wallet is still scared....haunted by past failures

[RouletteGhost]

Of the lots ive tested betting against 3 3 1
Hasnt lost once

Not saying it wont lose, just saying i havent seen 331 yet in the tests

FYI

[denzie]

Lanky's 6 point divisor not working here ?

[RouletteGhost]

Lanky's 6 point divisor not working here ?

Im sure it would work.

Do you think it is necessary though?

[denzie]

Im sure it would work.

Do you think it is necessary though?

Yep...

I've been doing bit same stuff in the past. And the hit rate is high. But I got my *ss kicked to many times. Just my opinion though.

[RouletteGhost]

Ill try it

[muggins]

I am not a big fan of set pattern betting, but I know lots of others are and it has it's place.  I have come unstuck and had my fingers burnt a few too many times so it makes me a bit apprehensive now.  Always worth a look. 

Good luck with this.  As Tamino always says, use dicipline and know when to leave.

[denzie]

I am not a big fan of set pattern betting, but I know lots of others are and it has it's place.  I have come unstuck and had my fingers burnt a few too many times so it makes me a bit apprehensive now.

Same here. Even with hit rate being very high. There always those days the losses come to quickly. And the recovery seem to get unreachable. ....

As Steve said....we been twisting and turning methods that are here for years to end up with the same ending.  But never try , never know.

[muggins]

Same here. Even with hit rate being very high. There always those days the losses come to quickly. And the recovery seem to get unreachable. ....

As Steve said....we been twisting and turning methods that are here for years to end up with the same ending.  But never try , never know.

Totally agree, you never know until you try.

[RouletteGhost]

test

starting at spin 900 on zumma

78 spins. 26 mini games. approximately 2 hours table time.....

id be done at row 3 and move on

this chart is betting against 1 2 3 formation, green is the win. all mini games won

1 2 3 formation - all games won

2 3 1 formation - 1 game lost, 1st mini game it showed, at that point i know it wouldn't repeat since it happens only 30 times in 60 thousand spins, so id double my bets to recover fast

3 1 2 formation - 1 game lost, quarter of the way down, I wouldn't have seen that though

moral of the story, the formations will happen but its limited to 1 in about 100 spins for each formation

using taminos advice of 20% bankroll win goal you should win 99.999999% of the time if you have discipline, and move on after a few wins

this is not a play every mini game and become rich thing. its more of a 3 to 4 mini game system, win a hundred dollars/euros and leave

HG does not exist, but this is pretty damn close

id also add that if you want to avoid the eventual 26 unit loss of 1 3 9, we can just bet the first 2 steps of each mini game and leave bet 3 (if it gets to that point) as a virtual bet. so if we lose 1, 3 progression STOP and wait for the next mini game. YOU WILL recover faster, much much faster

[RouletteGhost]

realistically if i was playing against 1 2 3 with real money and i had the proper bankroll here is how i would play it:

id bet with progression 1 3 9 with $5 units

IF i lost the 1 3 9 progression (which should happen once every 60-200 spins) i would be down $130

now since I am down $130, i know 1 2 3 occuring again would be an extreme and a rarity so I'd aim to win that $130 back fast

I would then move up to $50 units, and in 3 mini games (9 spins) I will be back recovered with profit

I'd only get to that point if I saw 1 2 3 within the 1st 3 mini games. because I would play 2 to 3 mini games MAXIMUM then stop and switch tables or take a break

so my expectations for seeing a 1 2 3 formation are extremely low in the short time I would be there

many ways to do it. take the loss for the day? never bet step 3 of progression? up the unit level to recover quick? take the roulette ball and throw it at the dealer? i dont know....so many ideas can be used for this

help is appreciated!

[RouletteGhost]

another lightbulb went off in my head to change things up so the bets aren't static

when arrive at the table

first 3 spin mini game: bet against 1 2 3 on a win wait until next 3 spins

when 3 spin are finished now:

bet against the last 3 formation

so :

bet 1 (mini game #1 of 3 spins) - bet against formation 1 2 3
bet 2 (mini game #2 of 3 spins) - bet against the last 3 formation

bet 1: dozen 2 and 3, then dozen 1 and 3, then dozen 1 and 2, on any win stop and wait until 3 spins is finished
results in those 3 spins were 9, 22, 11
so now mini game #2 we bet against the last 3 formation of 1, 2, 1
bets will be dozens 2 and 3, then dozens 1 and 3, then dozens 2 and 3

simple. easy. wins

the chances of losing 1 2 3 THEN losing a repeat pattern is probably 0.00000000000000002 % 

[thelaw]

another lightbulb went off in my head to change things up so the bets aren't static

when arrive at the table

first 3 spin mini game: bet against 1 2 3 on a win wait until next 3 spins

when 3 spin are finished now:

bet against the last 3 formation

so :

bet 1 (mini game #1 of 3 spins) - bet against formation 1 2 3
bet 2 (mini game #2 of 3 spins) - bet against the last 3 formation

bet 1: dozen 2 and 3, then dozen 1 and 3, then dozen 1 and 2, on any win stop and wait until 3 spins is finished
results in those 3 spins were 9, 22, 11
so now mini game #2 we bet against the last 3 formation of 1, 2, 1
bets will be dozens 2 and 3, then dozens 1 and 3, then dozens 2 and 3

simple. easy. wins

the chances of losing 1 2 3 THEN losing a repeat pattern is probably 0.00000000000000002 % 

It appears that the issue is not with the bet selection, but with the progression. The 1-3-9 seems to be a "sudden death" Marti.............I'm sure that GLC has a more effective progression in his arsenal.

This might be a HG, but it needs the right progression.

Even something like a 1-3-9........2-6-18........3-9-27 as different levels might work. Just an idea!

[RouletteGhost]

It appears that the issue is not with the bet selection, but with the progression. The 1-3-9 seems to be a "sudden death" Marti.............I'm sure that GLC has a more effective progression in his arsenal.

This might be a HG, but it needs the right progression.

Even something like a 1-3-9........2-6-18........3-9-27 as different levels might work. Just an idea!

Ill figure it out if it kills me