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Started by NextYear, Feb 01, 01:01 AM 2016

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NextYear

Quote from: TurboGenius on Feb 04, 10:08 AM 2016
And no one can predict the future but in a way we can.... that's probably best for another thread though.

About GUT, I misunderstood that you are proposing it, sorry.
About Dealer Signature, I am where you where before... Cannot see it happening.

Where can one find more of your thoughts (work)?

Thanks

NextYear

Quote from: TurboGenius on Feb 04, 10:20 AM 2016
I'm not saying that they don't work - I'm simply saying that it's not an option that I could use
for myself personally.

Same here.

thelaw

Quote from: soggett on Feb 03, 08:16 AM 2016
Since I was mentioned ( I am honored to be amongst the best in your list ), I will reply.

I have a habit to take time away from the wheel to clear my head. I stop thinking about roulette, systems, progressions, and then suddenly the good stuff comes to mind. I then come back and see things with "fresh eyes". I see things that I have missed, understand what I did not and so on. Lot's of "ooooohhhh thats what he meant" moments, hope you get what I mean.
I am still here, learning after 5+ years.

What I see now is what was said while I was a newbie - same old same old. Ideas that have been tried and still come up because everybody wants it easy, a system to make 10000 a day with 100 BR.
I believe most older members don't respond anymore cause they are tired with explaining things over and over. I feel them. Its just how most of us humans are, we want it all here and now. A person with 2 days of roulette experience will come and present a moneymaker - bet on red and double till win. You will tell him it is not good and after some time he will realize you were right. Now he demands you give him your system or the HG, you say no, argue, etc.  He leaves, stays, doesn't matter because tomorrow another comes and its rinse and repeat.

Well that is maybe not a good example but just to get a good idea about how it is.

RouletteGhost - 123 123 xxx  - xxx can be 123 the same way it can be 111 it does not matter, the ball doesn't know if it lands in dozen 1 or 2, the chances are the same. Couple of years ago I did something similar, I took a 10 spin sequence of R/B and bet against it happening right next - so that spins 11-20 would not be the same as 1-10 (don't know the odds but they should be similar as your example). Guess what happened next? On my very first test I got the same sequence to repeat... I was shocked, disappointed but I learned from it.

The thing is, you need to learn from your own mistakes - that is the only way.
And the older members mean well, they want to stop you from making the same mistakes as they did (how many people tried roulette with the double up system first - like 90% of us).
But not everybody can take critic, and most have to go through it to see for themselves.

Anyway, not to go too much off topic.

I am alive and well   :xd:

Still reading up, still learning from the "veterans", still testing, still playing...
Still having ooohhh moments even now (rarer and rarer but still).

Currently on my "to do" list is GUT, I am reading it again (for the fourth time I think) and ti's starting to make sense a little, but the first few times it didn't, I couldn't understand anything. Proof that with experience, time, you get to see differently, you grow. As will you all. I have looked back on systems that i tried when I was new, that I tested and now I can only laugh, I wouldn't bother with them now. But I learned from them and I grew.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. Everybody have a beer and let's all work toghether  :thumbsup:

Might want to do a bit of research on GUT before testing. Others have tested the idea with no long-term success on its own on several different forums.

Winkel also has a few other basic methods on several forums if you're interested.

One of the intriguing aspects of GUT is the number of numbers that must show/repeat in a given number of spins.

It should be noted that Winkel stopped posting about systems after the GUT info was released; he has only mentioned a few other methods as an aside. Perhaps he has found a winner with GUT :question:
You sir.......are a monster!!!

RouletteGhost

Quote from: thelaw on Feb 04, 02:17 PM 2016
Might want to do a bit of research on GUT before testing. Others have tested the idea with no long-term success on its own on several different forums.

Winkel also has a few other basic methods on several forums if you're interested.

One of the intriguing aspects of GUT is the number of numbers that must show/repeat in a given number of spins.

It should be noted that Winkel stopped posting about systems after the GUT info was released; he has only mentioned a few other methods as an aside. Perhaps he has found a winner with GUT :question:

You love to twist that knife  :twisted:
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Drazen

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 03, 10:03 AM 2016
If we saw an extreme like 25 blacks i would do something i normally wouldnt. Marty on red.

Lets say you have 25 blacks in a row  and you have outcomes of the last 25 EC-s spun.

How many different sequences of 25 blacks in exactly that order we could possibly have?

How many different sequences of last 25 EC-s exactly in that order we could possibly have?

This is my perception how a dream of Martingale advocates loks like.

Cheers

Steve

The software i have enables you to test millions of spins to see how many times something like RRRRRRRR spins and then B or R. The result? No combinations of RB change the odds. Again I'll release it soon after some mods. Can it get clearer?
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soggett

Quote from: TurboGenius on Feb 04, 09:10 AM 2016
This is true. 123123123 showing up is the exact same odds and probability as 12312312X where X is 1,2 or 3 equally. (past spins can't be used in a game like this).
As for the 0 or 0 and 00 - Big difference when it comes to working this out.
It's those zeros that come into play and kill a method like this.
Simpler to explain without using them, but the math completely changes and makes it worse for the player as well.

Off course, but I was just trying to explain ti as simply as I can.
By the way there are wise words in your posts, but like we already said, people have to go through it themselves.
My example with parents; I am 31, I have 4  nieces and nephews and a year or two ago while watching and listening to them I said to my mom : "I now see what you were telling us when we were kids, you were right all along",  she laughed her ass off and said "I told you so"  :xd: :xd:
The point being: at that time I saw the world differently than I see it now, but I didn't listen, I had to go through it myself to learn. Same thing with roulette.
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

Steve

Sogget, everyone's knowledge is still developing. We all may think we have understanding of reality but I'm sure time will show we really know nothing. When we think we know it all we stop learning
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Azim

Quote from: Steve on Feb 05, 03:05 PM 2016
Sogget, everyone's knowledge is still developing. We all may think we have understanding of reality but I'm sure time will show we really know nothing. When we think we know it all we stop learning

True. Goes for everything in life.
With right tools and good money management, any gambling activity can produce a steady income.

Turner

Quote from: Steve on Feb 05, 03:05 PM 2016
Sogget, everyone's knowledge is still developing. We all may think we have understanding of reality but I'm sure time will show we really know nothing. When we think we know it all we stop learning
Very true
watching a great program called The Brain With David Eagleman on BBC4

Eagleman proposes consciousness and our perception of reality is likened to a boss in an office. The brain gives out reports and info like staff in a meeting, from all parts of the brain. The boss decides what to do with it and how to proceed.

reality and our feeling of being alive is the boss making decisions based on all the reports put on his desk

In people with learning difficulties or mental illness,  their unconventional behavior is due to the staff making decisions because there is no boss. Odd ideas that would normally be thrown out are put in place.

In people who havnt been diagnosed but are a pain in the arse, like some asshole neighbor, you can see how the weak boss lets certain members of staff run the show

Very fascinating

Tacwell

Quote from: Turner on Feb 05, 05:29 PM 2016
Very true
watching a great program called The Brain With David Eagleman on BBC4

Eagleman proposes consciousness and our perception of reality is likened to a boss in an office. The brain gives out reports and info like staff in a meeting, from all parts of the brain. The boss decides what to do with it and how to proceed.

reality and our feeling of being alive is the boss making decisions based on all the reports put on his desk

In people with learning difficulties or mental illness,  their unconventional behavior is due to the staff making decisions because there is no boss. Odd ideas that would normally be thrown out are put in place.

In people who havnt been diagnosed but are a pain in the arse, like some asshole neighbor, you can see how the weak boss lets certain members of staff run the show

Very fascinating

A couple of years ago I read a book he authored called Incognito, also very interesting. It makes neuroscience understandable.

soggett

Quote from: Steve on Feb 05, 03:05 PM 2016
Sogget, everyone's knowledge is still developing. We all may think we have understanding of reality but I'm sure time will show we really know nothing. When we think we know it all we stop learning

Absolutely agree with you
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

6th-sense

nice to see my name up there....have been bobbing on here looking in from time to time....the dozens 1,,2,,3 was pretty interesting but there is a better way to categorize it...and learn something about cycles of the game too...if i have time this week i,ll post the way i think you should look at it...and how a cycle works and what you can build on....simple is as simple does

Azim

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There were other posts but I cant see edited posts, only fully deleted posts. Anyway guys i'm sorting out the issue with ken and RG. This should not be such a big deal really. Much bigger things going on. Check the forum rule additions. And if in doubt, or if there is a problem with anything, just ask me.

A bit of understanding both ways will help. Mods often get targeted. Anyone in position of authority does. Their job is not always easy. But mods also need to bite their tongue even more so than normal members. Anyway lets please move on from the issue. Again I'll discuss it directly with ken and RG.
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