The Bi#ch And Complain Thread Aka Your Chance to Yell At The General.

[RouletteGhost]

im on a roll because this is the place to be on a roll not in a thread:)

Cant argue with that. I wish i had the cool of you and notto combined. I just cant keep my mouth shut!

Joking aside i cant wait until OP goes away. He popped up essentially out of nowhere. Hes been on bet selection and roulette 30 for awhile. He was one hell of a pain on roulette 30

Why did it take him so long to snake over here

[MrJ]

Ok. But in general you wont play roulette with money you couldnt afford to lose right?

What kinda argument is that?

Are you playing 2 to 4 numbers with thousand dollar swings with money you cant afford to lose? Doubtful

Imagine how dead casinos would be if every person who could NOT afford to lose a dime, did not play? (lol)....those would be very empty casinos I guess. Maybe I can half agree with you RG but half is the closest I can go. If a system is pitiful (not yours RG) and a person can "afford" to lose 5K with it, who am I to comment? and I have seen some damn strange methods at the casino.

One still stays in my head....a guy had playing cards with all 38 numbers. He would pick one for every spin and put a black on it. Strange? Yes but he finished right around where he should of at the end of the night. The dealers and pit laughed and laughed at him. The employees here are quite rude, I fu***n hate them.

Ken

[The General]

im on a roll because this is the place to be on a roll not in a thread:)

Yep.  The whiny little b@st@rds can b%tch about us and we can b#itch about them without the threads being saturated with b#llsh#t.

[The General]

Ken,

You know how to spot the APs?


Other than the nerdy glasses.  They often don't bet unless they know that they have the edge.  They often have to consciously remind themselves to places bets in order to keep from standing out when setting up a play.

[Celticknits]

I like your section here General sir. IMO.....the biggest issues (in no order) with this "crew" here are...

A) Age

B) Lack of REAL casino experience

C) Lack of having ZERO interest in the guys here that know 400% more than they do (lol)

Still stuck in the same goofy systems (see above 'C'). I will say this and it wont be popular with BOTH groups (I assume). I do believe in SOME forms of methods and Turbo/Steve/General know this about me. I dont agree with ANY of the past 6 months of "cool" systems here. I'm stuck in the middle, kind of. I agree with MY STYLE of play but not being apart of the current status quo.

I think I said that quite nicely?

Ken

-MrJ

Regarding your three points.

A)   Age --- Not sure how Steve can control that.

B) Lack of REAL casino experience --- I agree 100% if you are talking about overall experience but not if you are only talking about roulette.
When I joined the forum back in January of this year I had not placed a roulette chip on the felt.  However, having said that, I have been playing BJ since the mid 1970s in casinos and did very well until they started catching on to things like card counting and introduced rules and equipment to combat the losses. That was why I joined the forum. To learn, absorb and WIN!!!

C) Lack of having ZERO interest in the guys here that know 400% more than they do (lol)

This made me laugh.
Look at the wording...Lack of having ZERO interest
Wouldnt that me that an individual would have interest
I am sure that is not what you meant but you have to admit it does sound funny.

In regards to this knowledge thing though, I would have to say that the only things that I have ever heard from most of the people with more knowledge of roulette than me, and that would be just about everyone here, were negative, and abusive comments. I PMd Steve a few times regarding this but received nothing but excuses from him.
I came here to learn and will not partake in the flame wars that are so prevelant here.

I have received many unsolicited messages from old forum members that no longer post and I would have to say that they, and Notto were the only reason I have stuck it out. Thank goodness I did.

In no way should this post be MISCONSCREWED (I know its spelt wrong but it sounds better) as any form of attack on you, the General or anyone else here.

Just my two cents worth on the 3 months I have been involved on this forum.

-Celtic

[MrJ]

A)   Age --- Not sure how Steve can control that >>> ??

[MrJ]

C) Lack of having ZERO interest in the guys here that know 400% more than they do (lol)

This made me laugh.
Look at the wording...Lack of having ZERO interest >>> I thought about that as well (lol), I usually catch that s**t. I'll correct it.

Ken

[RouletteGhost]

[MrJ]

"I have received many unsolicited messages from old forum members that no longer post" >>> Not that its any kind of a contest but I also have received many PMs/emails from veteran members as well. Hey, in 100 years, who's really gonna care about all this? Nobody.

Ken

[MrJ]

Ken,

You know how to spot the APs?


Other than the nerdy glasses.  They often don't bet unless they know that they have the edge.  They often have to consciously remind themselves to places bets in order to keep from standing out when setting up a play.

I told you, a couple years back, I did spot you at Poto. Agreed, I might be wrong but I would bet it was you. By yourself, glasses, a bit tall, arms folded, watching and watching. (no, I am not Asian).

Ken

[The General]

Actually I don't wear glasses for corrective vision...I wear them when playing some situations to reduce glare.  In other words they're clear polarized.

[Celticknits]

A)   Age --- Not sure how Steve can control that >>> ??

I was thinking that you were saying that there should be an age restriction to be able to post on the forum.

-Celtic

[MrJ]

I was thinking that you were saying that there should be an age restriction to be able to post on the forum.

-Celtic

No, I was talking about the ages of the crew guys at B&M casinos.

Ken

[MrJ]

I wanted North Carolina but oh well.

Ken

[Steve]

WISC primary tomorrow, help me out!! >>

Clinton?
Bernie?
Trump?
Cruz?
Kasich?

All with problems, but definitely not Clinton. She's so deep in the establishment, nothing will change. Trump would be the best bet.

Here's my take on Caleb (aka "General"):

1. He has a solid knowledge of beating roulette.

2. He does like to share his knowledge.

3. Like many AP's, he comes accross as arrogant, or too sure of himself. The "system players" think AP's views of winning roulette are "unwelcome opinions", when it is actually mathematical and scientific fact. Like how the payouts are always unfair for the odds, and the only way to win roulette long term is increasing your odds of winning. This is not an opinion. It is fact. But inexperienced players tend not to understand the logic.

4. His initial contributions here (recently) were polite and accurate. They didnt stay that way, and I understand why considering he was being attacked in a subtle way, as if he was being a prick trying to rain on parades. The truth is not raining on parades. Someone mentioned there should be a section where system players could share ideas, without people like Caleb getting in the way. Anyone can start their own forum. But the fact is Caleb was sharing accurate information. It is not wise to ignore clear mathematical fact. Its the same facts I've been saying myself, and even I've been accused of acting like an "arrogant know it all".

Alternatively, let me know if you want a private section, then you can choose for yourself who can or cant contribute.

5. I believe while he has good intentions, most of the time, he can be immature and an outright asshole too. Mostly if he's pushed to begin with, but sometimes for his own amusement, like making faces at animals at the zoo. But usually, it appears he starts off polite although abrupt, and people take offence to being told their ideas are "worthless". He should apply some tact and use better words. Although then again, he does spell it out and people still don't "get it".

6. He appears to like the attention and to create trouble, regardless of who it may inconvenience. For example, this thread.


My suggestions are:

1. Try to learn from Caleb. He is one of the few that understand roulette. I am not saying he is a roulette god. I dont agree with him on all aspects of AP but I dont think either one of us want to argue about it. But hey i will say 80% edge for computers in less than an hour of play on most wheels, 5% edge for bias in weeks of play on very few wheels

2. If you dont agree with him, then dont listen to him.

3. If you think he or anyone is breaking the rules, report posts. If he is being a nuisance to you, ask him politely to butt out and if he doesnt, then that would be trolling. He needs to respect that people can discuss whatever they want in peace. If people are wrong, say your piece then let them be wrong. And remember if you want private conversations where you can choose who can post, then request a private section. They you can moderate your own section, and choose who can and cannot post. Contact me via PM if you want a private area.