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Started by Celticknits, Apr 06, 10:19 AM 2016

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Celticknits

My local B&M is in the process of replacing their single large Interblock Organic wheel with two sets of small Bally Fusion Auto roulette wheels. These wheels are facing each other with five betting terminals each and a large readout display, for each one.

When I looked at the Bally site I see that the casino could have had just one small wheel and 10 betting stations.

The first question that comes to my mind is why have two seperate set ups?

Can somebody please tell me if they have had any issues playing these machines?

Thank You
-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

The General

The Fusion Roulette is terrible.  The wheel is obviously changing wheel speeds after no more bets in an effort to beat the player. 

Steer clear of this game, it's designed to cheat the player.  Bally's Fusion Roulette is not fair.



What city are you in?
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
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RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Apr 06, 11:23 AM 2016
The Fusion Roulette is terrible.  The wheel is obviously changing wheel speeds after no more bets in an effort to beat the player. 

Steer clear of this game, it's designed to cheat the player.  Bally's Fusion Roulette is not fair.



What city are you in?

General. U know where i am. We have spoke before about it.  The wheels here change speeds to but you have successfully played here.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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Tamino

My opinion: Give me a live  roulette wheel any time , any place , and any where and shove the rest where the sun don`t shine.



At a nearby racno ( 30 miles away) air ball is being offered  but I  rather prefer taking the trip to  the Casino de Montreal .( 245 miles)

Celticknits

Quote from: Tamino on Apr 06, 11:47 AM 2016
My opinion: Give me a live  roulette wheel any time , any place , and any where and shove the rest where the sun don`t shine.

At a nearby racno ( 30 miles away) air ball is being offered  but I  rather prefer taking the trip to  the Casino de Montreal .( 245 miles)

Holy crap.
There is no way I would drive 245 just to play roulette.
Right now I am playing 2-3 times a week.
I like roulette but not that much.
Ill just go back to playing BJ.

Out of curiosity, how often do you go to the B&M

-Celtic

'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

Celticknits

Thanks for the info guys.
Not really what I wanted to hear but hey what can you do.

Well I guess once these things are up and running at the B&M I will have do a lot of virtual tests with them before playing for real money.
Not my style but I have no intention of giving everything back I have earned so far.

-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

nottophammer

This equipment going in, it's going into a gov, regulated casino?
Are they going to let blantant cheat software be used, if word get around that they cheat, then surely no one will use it.

What are they trying to stop? Celtic winning a few 100 units each time he comes, don't think so. They may have seen he wins and studied what he does, but i assume its still airball, so it monitors the screens and recognises Celtics game play, if it's going to start avoiding Celtics numbers, might they not be enabling someone else to win.

On the FOBT's which are RNG and i play on 99.99% of the time, i might be betting for a repeat of the 1x+>1x and leave one number off, sometimes it lands on the missed number, but then again theres times it still pays out. What about when i've won with say 10 non-hit and forget to take the winning number off and it repeats, so i win.
After years of playing on these machines wouldn't it recognise me, and cheat me.

Like Celtic said he'll have to record games of say 60 spins, work with the 37 or 38 spin cycle.
personally think he'll have nothing to worry about, remember he uses a structured game play, he aint no plasterer, a scatter of chips, i'd say he's a professional roulette player and MR casino dont like that type of player.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Tamino

Celtic


Trips  to  a B & M casino ? Whenever I need a break from the daily routine.. Montreal I can handle within one day but Atlantic City  ( 275 miles one way) requires  a  2 nite stay.

Celticknits

Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 06, 12:37 PM 2016
This equipment going in, it's going into a gov, regulated casino?
Yes
Are they going to let blantant cheat software be used, if word get around that they cheat, then surely no one will use it.

What are they trying to stop? Celtic winning a few 100 units each time he comes, don't think so. They may have seen he wins and studied what he does, but i assume its still airball, so it monitors the screens and recognises Celtics game play, if it's going to start avoiding Celtics numbers, might they not be enabling someone else to win.
I am retired and a lot of the time I go it would be early in the morning or the middle of the afternoon and there is only one or two other player or I could be the only one playing.
This brings up a point---Would I be best to play at the bank of betting terminals where there are other players


On the FOBT's which are RNG and i play on 99.99% of the time, i might be betting for a repeat of the 1x+>1x and leave one number off, sometimes it lands on the missed number, but then again theres times it still pays out. What about when i've won with say 10 non-hit and forget to take the winning number off and it repeats, so i win.
After years of playing on these machines wouldn't it recognise me, and cheat me.

Like Celtic said he'll have to record games of say 60 spins, work with the 37 or 38 spin cycle.
personally think he'll have nothing to worry about, remember he uses a structured game play, he aint no plasterer, a scatter of chips, i'd say he's a professional roulette player and MR casino dont like that type of player.
Not sure about being a professional roulette player but Thank You for the kind words. At least you did not call me an expert because by my definition EX is an unknown quantity and a SPERT is a drip under pressure. :xd:


-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

TurboGenius

Quote from: Tamino on Apr 06, 11:47 AM 2016
My opinion: Give me a live  roulette wheel any time , any place , and any where and shove the rest where the sun don`t shine.

Exactly
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tuddilue

Sorry to say I do not have any experience with that system.

But why do you not start playing roulette online? The WTF works great there. You can choose live wheels and airball or what you want.

With your knowledge, no problem I should say!!

TurboGenius

Quote from: Tamino on Apr 06, 12:45 PM 2016
Trips  to  a B & M casino ? Whenever I need a break from the daily routine.. Montreal I can handle within one day but Atlantic City  ( 275 miles one way) requires  a  2 nite stay.

Sometimes I wonder about people who live far far away from a casino but still work on roulette systems (not you Tamino lol - I mean people a great distance away).
Or "I can only play online because I don't have a casino to go to" etc.
Makes me think of someone who wants to be a professional surfer but lives in Kansas and can't get to the "shore" unless they do it on vacation. My advice - get a different hobby or move.
I have my own rules (and I live so close to AC). No RNG, no online - it's that simple.
I want a real table, a human being dealer and a physical wheel and ball.
The "virtual reality" world will pass me by and I'm ok with that.
If there comes a time when REAL wheels and dealers and tables are history - as will be my interest in roulette.
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3Nine

Quote from: TurboGenius on Apr 09, 07:13 PM 2016
Sometimes I wonder about people who live far far away from a casino but still work on roulette systems (not you Tamino lol - I mean people a great distance away).
Or "I can only play online because I don't have a casino to go to" etc.
Makes me think of someone who wants to be a professional surfer but lives in Kansas and can't get to the "shore" unless they do it on vacation. My advice - get a different hobby or move.
I have my own rules (and I live so close to AC). No RNG, no online - it's that simple.
I want a real table, a human being dealer and a physical wheel and ball.
The "virtual reality" world will pass me by and I'm ok with that.
If there comes a time when REAL wheels and dealers and tables are history - as will be my interest in roulette.

Hey Turbo, I'm not too far from you.
Do I turn the wheel,
or does the wheel turn me?

TurboGenius

Quote from: 3Nine on Apr 09, 07:15 PM 2016
Hey Turbo, I'm not too far from you.

I just looked out the window and I didn't see you.
Lol - kidding.
Send me a PM - where are you at ?
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Celticknits

Quote from: TurboGenius on Apr 09, 07:13 PM 2016
Sometimes I wonder about people who live far far away from a casino but still work on roulette systems (not you Tamino lol - I mean people a great distance away).
Or "I can only play online because I don't have a casino to go to" etc.
Makes me think of someone who wants to be a professional surfer but lives in Kansas and can't get to the "shore" unless they do it on vacation. My advice - get a different hobby or move.
I have my own rules (and I live so close to AC). No RNG, no online - it's that simple.
I want a real table, a human being dealer and a physical wheel and ball.
The "virtual reality" world will pass me by and I'm ok with that.
If there comes a time when REAL wheels and dealers and tables are history - as will be my interest in roulette.

-Turbo

Well I did very very well with the old airball machine the B&M had and I did profit around $1K with the Canadian Governments online site but I stopped using that because it was virtual/rng and was obviously being manipulated in some way shape or form and I felt like I was playing on Playstation.

I agree with your comments and in my post #4 I did say that if these new machines they are installing do not work out I will go back to playing Blackjack.

Thank you for you views.
-Celtic
'Sometimes it is best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'

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