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GUT 2.0

Started by Gutroulette, Apr 17, 12:21 PM 2016

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denzie

Quote from: psimoes on Apr 20, 05:20 AM 2016
chances are variance will correct itself

:thumbsup:
This I love to read !
As spins roll off our predictions get better

psimoes

Ya it looks like what GUT is all about. Don´t know how well it performs yet but it might be a useful tool to determine that.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

nottophammer

I'll just carry on blinkered to math. Start with 37 non-hit due, after 10 spins plough in allguns blazing betting just non-hit with +1/-1.
When its lost i'll take the loss against the +5000 its already won after 117 days using just 1 game per day.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

denzie

Quote from: psimoes on Apr 20, 05:47 AM 2016
Ya it looks like what GUT is all about. Don´t know how well it performs yet but it might be a useful tool to determine that.

My number 1 stuff is all about RTM or whatever we call it. Does the job for me.
>:D
As spins roll off our predictions get better

RouletteGhost

Quote from: button on Apr 20, 03:25 AM 2016
The chances of any math lovers putting up proof that it can't work is about as good as seeing pigs fly south for the winter.  Words just words.

Hehe. They did it to grassroots
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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tuddilue

Quote from: denzie on Apr 20, 06:12 AM 2016
My number 1 stuff is all about RTM or whatever we call it. Does the job for me.
>:D
Number 1? What are you referring to? Always curious you know  :wink:

TurboGenius

Quote from: button on Apr 20, 03:25 AM 2016
The chances of any math lovers putting up proof that it can't work is about as good as seeing pigs fly south for the winter.  Words just words.

On Oct. 17, 2000, a Vietnamese pot-bellied pig flew on a commercial airliner - first class, no less


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Turner

Quote from: TurboGenius on Apr 20, 06:53 AM 2016
On Oct. 17, 2000, a Vietnamese pot-bellied pig flew on a commercial airliner - first class, no less

Technically, it flew...I will accept that  :thumbsup:

RouletteGhost

So much I was supposed to do when a pig flew....
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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TurboGenius

LOL
Me too - I have to find that list and start working on that stuff now
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Turner

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 20, 07:14 AM 2016
So much I was supposed to do when a pig flew....
I like that  :thumbsup:

denzie

Quote from: tuddilue on Apr 20, 06:37 AM 2016
Number 1? What are you referring to? Always curious you know  :wink:

Lol....I posted some stuff about TV and things  ;D

I wonder what the math guys think about RTM ? Not that it would influence my game but always good to hear ^^
As spins roll off our predictions get better

The General

Guidelines for Evaluating Systems  This information is from, "The Mathematics of Gambling", by Dr. Edward Thorp.

The general principles we have discussed apply, they guarentee that systems can not give the player an advantage.
To help you reject systems, here are conditions which guarantee that a system is worthless:

1. Each individual bet in the game has a negative expectation
This makes any series of bets have a negative expectation

2.There is a maximum limit to the size of any possible game.
(This rules out systems like the no-limit doubling up system.)

3. The results of any one play of the game do not "influence" the results of any other play of the game.
(Thus, in roulette, we assume that the chances are equally likely for all of the numbers on each and every future spin, regardless of the results of past spins.)

4. There is a minimum allowed size for any bet. (This is necessary for the technical steps in the mathematical proof.  Most people would take for granted that there is such a minimum, namely some multiple of the smallest monetary unit.)

Under these conditions, it is a mathematical fact that every possible gambling system is worthless in the following ways:

1. Any series of bets has negative expectation
2. This expectation is the (negative) sum of the expectations of the individual bets.
3. If the player continues to bet, his total loss divided by his total action will tend to get closer and closer to his expected loss divided by his total action.
4. If the player continues to bet it is almost certain that he will:
    (a) be a loser;
    (b) eventually stay a loser forever, and so never again break even;
    (c) eventually lose his entire bankroll, no matter how large it was.
The above information is from, "The Mathematics of Gambling". 


The above information does not apply to strategies such as:

B ased wheels or various types of visual ballistics.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
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The General

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

MoneyT101

General,

You've made your point in every single topic you've entered just move on.  You sound like a broken record and no one cares, wait system/strategy players dont care.

Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

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