Yet another system recipe

[falkor2k15]

It's a way to keep the thread to its topic. I don't mind you posting anything here as long as it is related to this system discussed here. I don't want or rather don't like when someone ( not necessarily you ) divert every topic I start to those ideas in random thoughts. Thanks for your understanding.

But that's simply not true is it? Your response rate to questions and discussions - regardless of whether strictly on topic or not - is really rather lousy; however, I don't have the stats to show it. What's more: this topic/system is built on ideas from Random Thoughts, so somewhat relevant. All you are doing is creating an artificial divide in your mind. Anyway, you don't have to justify your lack of communication since it's your own topic and your free time, at your expense, but please don't lie to yourself. It's not healthy. As Turner says: he needs to try to keep you honest.

Dare I approach Priyanka and ask her a serious question about this system? I will probably get accused of raping a woman instead. 

[falkor2k15]

Just remember, Priyanka: I'm not your enemy and neither is Steve - it's those people you have sworn oath to. 

[Priyanka]

Dare I approach Priyanka and ask her a serious question about this system? I will probably get accused of raping a woman instead.

You will not. You can ask anytime. 

[Still]

Wait!

First lets assume there is no edge.


[is the General gone yet?]


Ok, next clue! 

[psimoes]

There are six possible sequences from start to end of a cycle:

AA

ABA

ABB

ABCA

ABCB

ABCC

Where do we go from here?

[falkor2k15]

There are six possible sequences from start to end of a cycle:

AA

ABA

ABB

ABCA

ABCB

ABCC

Where do we go from here?

Those are all the combinations, right? But Priyanka limits those with 3 different orders?

[psimoes]

yeah, it would look cool to say "repeat order 3 ALWAYS happens in a cycle length of 3 - a non-random event" and all that. But the truth is, you don´t know when a cycle length of 3 is about to hit.

You could also say that AA, ABA and ABCA all finish the cycle with the same dozen that started it.

While ABB, ABCB and ABCC all finish the cycle with a different dozen that started it.

Three sequences against "opposing" three other sequences - an even chance bet with 2:1 payout! But it´s flawed thinking.

So now what?

[falkor2k15]

yeah, it would look cool to say "repeat order 3 ALWAYS happens in a cycle length of 3 - a non-random event" and all that. But the truth is, you don´t know when a cycle length of 3 is about to hit.

You could also say that AA, ABA and ABCA all finish the cycle with the same dozen that started it.

While ABB, ABCB and ABCC all finish the cycle with a different dozen that started it.

Three sequences against "opposing" three other sequences - an even chance bet with 2:1 payout! But it´s flawed thinking.

So now what?

VdW? You know I think we can say more about the cycle length than we can about the defining element because they are 2 different types of constants (see my post in the Randomer Thoughts topic). I will look into this order element at some point to see if it can be combined with the cycle length to create a biased game or not. How do you suggest we change our thinking?

[Priyanka]

So now what?

Psimoes - This thread is more for fun. Some people likes playing with numbers. For example, it is very hard to describe the satisfaction you get when you start playing numbers 1 to 36 in a row for every spin and see how the expectation meets your results. It is pure fun and can only be experienced by someone who sees fun playing with numbers. There are many in this forum. Even your posts around chaos suggests you are one

Now coming to this method - Forget cycles. What am trying to do is have some fun with numbers. Have some fun with arranging them in the way I want. Have some fun with repeaters.

We all know that if there are dozens, they do repeat. They can either repeat the next spin or within the next 3 spins. All I am doing is arranging numbers as they turn up on the wheel in three separate sets. As much as possible, I try to order them in a way that one of the sets repeat only after 3 spins.

Once I create such sets then I play for repeaters in the way repeaters occur. So if a repeater happens within 2 spins, I play for that event to repeat with an added twist. I play only the position where the repeater repeated. Cryptic - I know, I am struggling to explain properly a system

[falkor2k15]

We all know that if there are dozens, they do repeat. They can either repeat the next spin or within the next 3 spins. All I am doing is arranging numbers as they turn up on the wheel in three separate sets. As much as possible, I try to order them in a way that one of the sets repeat only after 3 spins.

You mean you have chosen the 3 orders to follow a certain distribution pattern? But, if I've understood that correctly, isn't there just 3 natural orders anyway - and you've simply labelled them 1,2,3. It doesn't matter if 3 is 2 or 2 is 1 because one of the sets would still repeat after 3 spins (or whatever behaviour you are anticipating).

I play only the position where the repeater repeated. Cryptic - I know, I am struggling to explain properly a system.

Everything you explained sounds coherent - and will probably make sense if I analyse the video more. The only part that is difficult to understand is what you mean by "position"?

[Herby]

The only part that is difficult to understand is what you mean by "position"?

You rember the "out of the box" ?

[falkor2k15]

You rember the "out of the box" ?

Oh no not that... you trying to give me a headache??? 

[falkor2k15]

You rember the "out of the box" ?

You must be kidding me.... we can't be expected to track that as well...

[Herby]

I'm just guessing, but with  "out of the box" you get the position of the repeater, do the same thing again you get the position from where the repeater repeated.   

[falkor2k15]

I'm just guessing, but with  "out of the box" you get the position of the repeater, do the same thing again you get the position from where the repeater repeated.   

Good-bye and good luck! I'll be seeing you... ta ta fella...