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Started by Blue_Angel, Aug 02, 11:07 AM 2016

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Blue_Angel

If we could do something like a poll and/or gallop by asking the same things on 10 members from 4 different forums, do you believe that we could find even 1 thing in common on their answers?

Just to clarify that each and every member would not be aware of the rest of the responses.

If we could find even 1 common element among the responses of those 40 members, that could be the key information required for creating the HG

This could be  true if all those responses were not influenced by the rest of the responses and also were authentic and not fake answers, lies.

I would like to listen your opinions.

falkor2k15

Any answers they give wouldn't have anything to do with the HG - but more to do with how society has been engineered by the oligarch's anthropology department. That's why most people watch the same movies, eat the same food, listen to the same music (with vocals) and speak a similar international language with words like "cool" and "LOL". Their behaviour and etiquette is almost entirely dictated by external influences - based on race, culture, location, environment, etc. People haven't learnt how to express their individuality, but feel more comfortable conforming in groups and following certain group dynamics, etc. That's why you will find commonality in everyone's answers.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Blue_Angel

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 02, 11:20 AM 2016
Any answers they give wouldn't have anything to do with the HG - but more to do with how society has been engineered by the oligarch's anthropology department. That's why most people watch the same movies, eat the same food, listen to the same music (with vocals) and speak a similar international language with words like "cool" and "LOL". Their behaviour and etiquette is almost entirely dictated by external influences - based on race, culture, location, environment, etc. People haven't learnt how to express their individuality, but feel more comfortable conforming in groups and following certain group dynamics, etc. That's why you will find commonality in everyone's answers.

Perhaps what you say is true, but it's very generalized, I was talking about getting some valuable information not by requesting directly a solution but by acquiring it indirectly.
Then you would compare all those responses in order to keep the mutual elements.
So, we are not talking about the same things.

Turner

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Aug 02, 11:20 AM 2016Their behaviour and etiquette is almost entirely dictated by external influences - based on race, culture, location, environment, etc
yeah, its called being "Normal"


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falkor2k15

People who think they are normal are really not normal; psychopaths, for example, think they are more rational than everyone else. People's perceptions of themselves is all down to childhood conditioning, which often leads to disturbed personalities.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Blue_Angel

I'd like to thank you for derailing the original subject.

BTW, what's the definition of "normal"?

Is it what majority embraces and applies?

falkor2k15

Quote from: Blue_Angel on Aug 02, 12:07 PM 2016
I'd like to thank you for derailing the original subject.

BTW, what's the definition of "normal"?

Is it what majority embraces and applies?
Whatever people in the surrounding environment deems acceptable - usually dictated by the majority - but more so by the person(s) in the group with the most influence. Anyone with opposing views then get ostracized. What is acceptable as normal then gets set in stone - see the first laws of Hammurabi. Only the people in power or with the most influence then get to warp/mold/change those rules/laws/standards over time. Everyone else forcibly or otherwise follows suit based on the agenda set by the group and their leaders. Remember: when the audience is asked to vote on a question on a quiz show, they often, collectively, get the answer wrong. But the intelligent or knowledgeable person will have more chance of getting the answer right compared to all the "normal" people.  The group leaders maintain control by discouraging controversial subjects that may not be accepted as politically correct. Should you be circumcised? It all depends on what part of the world you were born in. To me it's simply a barbaric practice going back to Ancient Egypt - reported by our the first Historian, Herodotus, from the 5th century BC. People are happy to go to war for their clan or country, risk their lives, simply because they happen to be born in a certain region of the world (by accident) and feel "normal" and patriotic - connotations of superiority or grandiosity perhaps? It's all totally alien to me - but I have no choice but to co-exist with all these matrixees around me. You as well, right, Blue Angel? Every time we go to a public restaurant we are force fed propaganda from North Korean radio... actually, in the west, we are forced to listen to popular music instead interrupted by headlines of a Malaysian jet gone missing with Isis having taken responsibility, etc.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Blue_Angel

Quotereported by our the first Historian, Herodotus, from the 5th century BC. People are happy to go to war for their clan or country, risk their lives, simply because they happen to be born in a certain region of the world (by accident) and feel "normal" and patriotic - connotations of superiority or grandiosity perhaps? It's all totally alien to me - but I have no choice but to co-exist with all these matrixees around me. You as well, right, Blue Angel?

Indeed, I agree.

QuoteRemember: when the audience is asked to vote on a question on a quiz show, they often, collectively, get the answer wrong. But the intelligent or knowledgeable person will have more chance of getting the answer right compared to all the "normal" people.

That's why I said up to 10 members and up to 4 forums instead of the majority.

Step number 1: begin a poll like elections, each and every member can vote only once  everyone who thinks better  except themselves.

Step number 2: Gather at least 1000 votes and select the top 10, contact privately each one and reassure these 10 persons that everything which are going to respond will remain strictly confidential.

Repeat steps 1 & 2 for the rest of the forums.

Step number 3: Gather all the responses and discard all of those which are not commonly accepted by those 40 individuals, what it will remain is/are only mutually accepted element(s).

This must be the key!

falkor2k15

A more worthwhile project might be to find out how the Non-Random theory of friends and strangers can be applied to Roulette?
link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem_on_friends_and_strangers
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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