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The story of Michael Emilio Rodriguez (GF admin)

Started by Steve, Mar 14, 10:57 PM 2017

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Steve

Firstly I know most people don't care who anyone is. And I'm not trying to discredit Michael. I dont care about him. Until recently I had no idea he existed. This post is just to clarify facts.

It started with an "anonymous" member on another forum attacking me (username "iHeartRoulette"). I didnt even know about the forum until Ken told me they were stealing and re-publishing posts from here. Anyway attacks against me are almost always a "competitor" or someone I've banned from the forum. Clearly the attacker had a motive.


The Motives of iHeartRoulette

The attacker claimed he never purchased anything from me and was just a good Samaritan spending loads of time to carefully discredit me. It was obviously nonsense. I also found these unusual:

1. His focus was pushing people away from my forums, instead of convincing people not to purchase from me. Usually a "competitor" would attack my technology (by posting irrelevant and inaccurate junk). His focus was my forums. Some of his quotes are below:

QuoteBut what really dropped my jaw to the floor is that he actually runs the top roulette forums which from my research it seems he bought from the original owners so that he could peddle his scam systems with an air of legitimacy in front of thousands of unsuspecting customers like myself.

QuoteWhat I don't understand is, if all his history is so well known and published all over the internet for all to see, how can so many people participate in his forums and give his scams the exposure he so desperately wants to prey on more and more lurkers such as myself? Don't they realize they are aiding and abetting a convicted scammer? Think about it, the more posts they make on his forums, the better his forums rank, the more traffic they get, the more lurkers show up, the more people he scams. It's sickening!

QuoteANYONE CAUGHT PARTICIPATING IN ANY OF HIS SITES IS AIDING AND ABETTING A CONVICTED SCAMMER

QuoteHow are people still participating on his forums and helping him peddle this ridiculous scam?

QuoteI just saw you're still participating on Steven's forums. How does it feel to aid and abet a convicted scammer and known criminal?

QuoteSo do you aid and abet Steven Hourmouzis as well and are afraid he might think my exposure of his scams came from you and therefore upset your criminal friend?

QuoteThe activities you described (eg. watching movies, listening to music) are 100% passive, whereas participating in the forum of a convicted scammer is 100% active. When you watch a Tim Allen movie, you aren't making more people consider doing cocaine. However, when you add content to a convicted scammer's site who is using that same site to advertise and peddle his latest scam, you are directly contributing to the site, you are directly contributing to the additional traffic to the site, and you are therefore directly perpetuating the scam. Heck, you won't even admit he's a convicted scammer when the evidence is put right in front of you, so no wonder you're so blind to your aiding and abetting of this known criminal.


2. The style of writing was nothing like the usual people who attack me. He had clear English with carefully presented links with custom anchor text. Most attacks on me are clumsy and haphazardly written. In particularly his anchor links were odd as I had never seen anyone on a forum take such time and effort with forum links. I noticed the GF admin posted links the same way. But at the time I didn't think much of it. I just assumed iHeartRoulette was copying how the admin posts links.




Initial Guesses of IHeartRoulette's Identity

Initially I didn't know who iHeartRoulette was. It didnt really matter. But I'm sure nobody believes he was just being a "good samaritan". Obviously he had a better motive.

Here's Turbo's guess:



Anyone who's been around forums a while can see through rubbish more easily. Take this for example. In the below image:

* iHeartRoulette pretends not to know Turbo.
* Turbo knows it's rubbish
* Turbo understands the motives for attacking me aren't so pure




Anyway the thread was backfiring against IHeartRoulette, so he got into arguments with people who posted here. He said things like:

QuoteAnyone who would aid and abet (and defend) a known convicted scammer and associate themselves with a known criminal is just as bad as the scammer and criminal himself. You should be ashamed of yourselves.


Even Ken knew IHeartRoulette was lying:



So the thread went on and on and nobody supported him. He became frustrated and attacked especially Turbo and Ken, who weren't defending me at all. They were just making it clear IHeartRoulette was lying about his identity and motive.

It was still uncertain who iHeartroulette was. Others speculated. At this time I didnt even respond on the thread and watched him get more frustrated.






I began to believe iHeartRoulette was either Kav or Blue Angel. For a few reasons. Later I saw this wasn't the case, and I apologized to them.

At this point, I began responding to the nonsense, mostly with simple things like:



Discussions about me dominated the forum. And often still do. But I merely responded to nonsense.



Admin's biased moderation

Admin started censoring links to material that enabled anyone to see my technology is not a scam. The whole thread was about me, and links to such material are justified. I contacted the GF admin and asked him why he was censoring my links. I explained that if someone came to my forums and attacked another person, I would certainly allow the targeted person to respond to the allegations OR I would not allow the attacks to take place at all. At first he completely ignored my emails. Only after repeatedly contacting him he finally responded, with an incredibly arrogant god-like complex. And none of what he said was reasonable. It was heavily biased to allow discrediting me, which I thought was strange.

It's important to understand the links I posted were almost all to :.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com which is clearly a site to refute false allegations. It is not a "sales" website. There are no "buy" links. The GF knew this very well. In contrast, GF admin allowed links to websites with blatant lies about me.

Basically iHeartRoulette was posting links to various websites that attacked me. This includes sites that clearly attack me while promoting "competing" technology. But admin censored almost every link and video I published. Most were completely removed, but some were allowed albeit unlinked (while allowing all defamatory links, images and videos untouched). Some of the material of mine that was removed includes a video of a public demonstration I conducted with a group of about 10 people I never met before. I announced this public demo so anyone could attend and finally see for themselves if the allegations about my technology are true or false. That demo was one of many I've done. And admin censored it. Again I thought the moderation was very strange and biased. But at this stage I did not suspect that the GF admin himself was iHeartRoulette.

For a while, iHeartRoulette didn't post, and I just responded to questions from other members. As a result, the truth became clear. And the truth was on my side.

Eventually iHeartroulette returned weeks later (seemingly out of the blue) and cut and pasted large sections from other websites from people with similarly ill motives. Some of the material included private information and photos, including of my wife and family. But being a forum admin without integrity, and the material being posted by the admin himself, of course it was permitted. Naturally when people lose an argument, they get personal.



Finding iHeartRoulette's IP address

I embedded an image in the forum with IP tracking technology. This would track the IP address of everyone who read the thread, with time stamps.

I just needed iHearRoulette to return, then I would know his IP. Eventually I had a long list of IP addresses, and checked each one to see which were proxies.

While waiting I noticed although iHeartRoulette dedicated a lot of time to attack me, he often didn't post for many weeks. Isn't that strange? Who spends so much time then doesn't read all the responses, then finally returns many weeks later and acts surprised as if he had no idea his thread was backfiring. It's reasonable to assume that he was still reading the thread, and I had already captured his IP. To narrow it down, I used the IP logs from my own forum to eliminate members as possibilities. Only a few IPs remained, one of which was the GF admin. I am quite sure I know who the other IPs are, and they have no motive to spend so much time attacking me. When iHeartRoulette finally returned, it indicated iHeartRoulette was actually the GF forum admin.

I'll make this clear. It would be easy for me to say he was just Mark Howe. To say it was actually the forum admin would be "forum suicide". But it appeared to be the truth. So I published details on the GF forum. And the admin immediately censored the proof and moved it to another area nobody sees. His reasoning was it was "off topic". So although I had found the identity and motive of iHeartRoulette, it was off-topic? Simply not believable.

GF admin asked me to provide proof of my claims and threatened he would add "compulsive liar" to my forum name. That's how he deals with embarrassing truth.

Before continuing, understand this:

* I dont believe iHeartRoulette would spend so much time and effort attacking me and not read responses for weeks. He was reading, and his IP was logged.

* I used my own forum IP logs to eliminate members that had no motive to attack me. Many of the same people visit both forums.

* When IHeartRoulette eventually did return, the admin's IP popped up again at the time of posting. The other IPs were of members without motive.

When I published this information, he claimed it was not proof. He then quoted parts of my response and used them in a misleading way. Basically I said it was not 100% conclusive proof that he was iHeartRoulette, but that in my view it is "beyond reasonable doubt" and that anyone could review the proof and decide for themselves. Nevertheless he added a childish tag "compulsive liar" to my forum name, and added links to my signature with his manipulative use of my quotes.



Identifying GF admin's real name

The GF admin constantly refers to himself as "we". He also previous said it was important he remained anonymous because he believed once a forum owner is known, they are more open to criticism. Actually I think it's because he is not new to gambling forums and is a known biased moderator. Although fair enough, he can hide. But I wanted to know who he really was.

Another member said they believed the GF admin was "Michael Emilio Rodriguez" (the owner of baccaratforums.com which since closed). Michael owns many different websites, and I used them to set similar traps to capture Michael's IP. It worked, and Michael is from Spain too. I was expecting Florida as this is the location he gives on his websites. The address of GF is also in Florida. But clearly both the GF admin and Michael are in Spain.

The GF admin claimed it was a coincidence. I'm not so sure about that. There were a few hits of IPs in Spain which were probably from a mobile phone network. At the very least the hits in Spain, and the timing of them, are very unlikely coincidence.

It all adds up to I'm about 95% sure that iHeartRoulette is the GF admin. His response is adding "compulsive liar" next to my forum name. What else could he do? I published the proof for everyone to see. Anyone could easily see their own IP on the log to see it's real.

So now as his original thread didn't turn out the way he wanted, he created an entirely new thread. And it's full of more blatant lies combined with malicious and deliberately twisted facts. Plus some careless statements that have no regards to the truth (not like accuracy was his intention). All to discredit me. I don't have time to address every piece of garbage some new person says. That's why, most of the time, my response just outlines the facts, and reminds that anyone can find the truth by:

* Getting a free trial to test for themsleves
* Visit me for a personal demo
* See a live webcam demo

You can even send me live video from a wheel I've never seen before, and see accuracy of predictions. Literally you could even send me video of a wheel via Skype and I can use my technology on the video.

Although I do sell some things, my focus is actually using my technology. I've said it all before and don't need to explain it again. For the people that are actually interested in the truth, its very easy to find. When it comes to significant sales, nobody with $80,000 or so to invest on my technology believes trash from anonymous people on forums, without actually finding out for themselves at no risk.



His true colors

Anyone can act professionally, but eventually the real person shows through.


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* See link:://:.casinoplayer.pro/index.php?threads/this-site-is-just-a-copy-of-gamblingforums-com.494/ - Does anyone think the OP of the thread is not the GF admin? That's his state of mind.

The admin revealed a proxy was being used. I wonder why.


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* In a discussion between each forum admin, this was said:



The link referred to was to information originally posted at link:://:.casinoplayer.pro/index.php?threads/inside-casino-information.5/

But the GF admin's "here" link is to link:s://:.zerobin.net/?86288ed074813d3f#WoswiJmNcwCDJAqkWWR6Vi97Jr8PXlw3ZNsgfKO62GY=

And this was sent to the forum admin who sent it to me:

QuoteSteve, FYI from Cyph:

QuoteThe material I posted was from a scanned document, using text extracting technology. First you scan the page then use software to extract text and images. It's not perfect technology and depending image imperfections, there can be jargon characters. In the link provided by your new friend, is text with exactly the same jargon characters in my posts. Two examples:

Â¥ When the pit and surveillance started answering
SE?Jlrth' even when surveillance directs its attention

The point is he copied the text character-for-character to back his argument. I;m not making an issue of it but you might want to mention it since he lied to people in your discussion


Petty and juvenile.


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iHeartroulette posted this below. Pay attention to the part in the red box. How many people do you know types with stops after every word to make a point?



Firstly, he had to to start a conversation with himself (gf admin) to try and shake off the proof I published.

But anyway at around the same time as this post, a long post attacking me surfaced on a consumer review site. Of course its anonymous. Some of the claims were:

QuoteHis roulette systems and computers do NOT work. I was scammed and I NEVER got my money back despite asking for it repeatedly and providing evidence that his systems and computers did not work.

Don't make the same mistake I did.

He's a charmer and a schmoozer and will convince you of anything. That's how he was able to scam investors, and that's how he's able to scam gullible roulette enthusiasts like me.


And the post ends with:

QuoteDo. Not. Send. Him. Money. Or. You. Will. Never. See. It. Again.

Are those full stops a coincidence? Or perhaps he's gone from pretending to be a good guy who is just warning people about me (despite never buying anything from me), to someone who I apparently scammed.

Michael, I hope for your sake you can look at your wife and kids, and honestly say they would be proud. I don't think that's the case. I expect they'd be embarrassed. Perhaps take a look and grow up. Keep in mind you attacked me. I want nothing to do with you. Focus on making your own forum a productive place. Then you wont need to attack another forum admin and his family to compete. It's a disgrace and you should be ashamed. You probably will be when you grow up.

My advice is "unmoderated" doesn't work. You just attract the animals. That's why you're struggling with productive posts, and why new members dont stay long. Biased moderation is even worse. The material you have allowed, and what I've explained here, has has the opposite of your intended effect. I highlighted via email that what you do does tend to come back on you - even if you don't initially see it.

I dont care about you. I'm not going to publish posts with addresses, photos or you your wife, or your kids. I don't want anything to do with you.
Please. Feel. The. Same. About. Me.
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Steve

Also regarding the claims I was jailed for scamming people. About 20 years ago. Actually what happened was I said a particular stock would increase in value by over 900%. I misunderstood some of the company press releases and published my misunderstanding. It was not deliberate. I had done numerous stock promotions before. This is the only time I published a misunderstanding. It's the publishing of incorrect information that was the problem.

So did the stock increase as I said? Actually nearly double what I said:



Coincidence? . . . well stocks don't normally increase by around 1500% in value, do they?

NOBODY lost money from my so-called "scam". Anyone who actually took my "unlawful" and apparently "scamming advice" would have made a huge profit. But as you should know by now, my prediction was proven right after my sentence - so it was too late.

I know you have no interest in the facts. You would rather people believe some of the most outrageous lies imaginable. But it's easy when people have no clue. Publish some crap that looks factual, and always some people will believe it. Take the flat Earth for example.

Like I said you should be ashamed. Same as others with similar motives, but some people are built differently with delusion about themselves.

I have never scammed anyone. I'm an honest and fair person. The main rubbish allegations against me are refuted at :.genuinewinnerroulettesystem.com but you cant censor the link here.
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