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Started by kingmaq, Sep 20, 06:49 AM 2017

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ego


How many of you have memorize the wheels numbers - i have all of them in my head and can tell what number is next in both directions
If some one want me to teach how to learn them and memorize them during one week of practice just let me know

You can memorize the wheel into larger sectors and use the number sequence with same as phone numbers
But my way is to memorize the wheels number is another more acc way ....

Cheers
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: ego on Oct 17, 11:36 AM 2017
If you want easy i can give you easy

The issue with the ball and ball speed is that during the ball journey is very sensitiv - maybe ball travel 16 sec and many things can happen during that time - we call it duration and quality of the ball track

So simple solution like taking release number and observe spin strength from slow, medium or fast is not working and give random results
You have to understand that during the first phase of the spin the ball is chaotic and is not rolling smooth on the ball track
So when spin and ball speed is different then the chaotic state last for different periods of time before starting to rolling on the ball track

Here is one good example of this problem with good visual ballistic solution

Lets say you have a reference deflector that is based upon what kind of dominant drop zone you have
Then when dealer spin the ball you wait until the ball pass your reference deflector the second time and take the dealers release number
Same for each spin

After you have taking the dealers release number you wait for two laps to pass and then take a second reference number and again wait two laps and then take a third release number
Now you get three numbers sequence - a number pattern - when this pattern repeat you will have the same rotor speed and same ball speed
You will also have the same rotor position and distance from your visual read (last reference number) to drop point
So the ball will at most times end up in the same sector or area of the wheel with the same number as the past spin with the same sequence pattern

But remember what i told you about how sensitiv the ball is during that early journey on the ball track
It still at chaotic state and after you have got your sequence pattern then the ball might start to rolling smooth on the ball track
And is then you should estimate and predict the ball speed

Now there is a solution for everything
You can start to notice where they say No More Bets for example six laps before drop
Assume the average spin is around 16 to 20 laps
Then you can skip certain amount of laps from the beginning of the spin to avoid the chaotic state and predict later
Now you just follow the same path for each spin - for example say you skip the first five spins then take release number on lap six for each spin collecting your number sequence patterns

This will make a big difference how well the wheel mapping method will work and your ability to predict the correct sector
No device and only eye observations

You can collect 20 number sequence patterns and play does who repeat
Then you have four number patterns - first release number, second reference number, third reference number and final outcome

Cheers

Hi ego
You put some good thoughts here, thx
But I'm a lazy person, I don't want I stress myself with all the on the fly/ blazing calculus , I want an automated prediction, I was able to automate almost the work ( searching for these sequenced pattern )... I just need to give the software last few spins until it give me the prediction...
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

denzie

@Roulettebeater

Your data is from live spins?
Does it say dealer change?
As spins roll off our predictions get better

Roulettebeater

Quote from: denzie on Oct 17, 12:29 PM 2017
@Roulettebeater

Your data is from live spins?
Does it say dealer change?

i didn't  understand your second question, what you mean?
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

denzie

 Your spin data.... Are Those live spins ? And do you know when it was dealer change? 
As spins roll off our predictions get better

Roulettebeater

Quote from: denzie on Oct 17, 01:07 PM 2017
Your spin data.... Are Those live spins ? And do you know when it was dealer change?

Denzie,

Live only!
frankly, my dear, i don't give a damn about dealer change!

If you want to see a live demo don't hesitate to ask :)
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

cht

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 17, 01:14 PM 2017
Denzie,

Live only!
frankly, my dear, i don't give a damn about dealer change!

If you want to see a live demo don't hesitate to ask :)
Can you do a video of demo play ?

Can you give some info example hitrate, numbers bet and so on that gives an idea how well it performs ? Thanks

Roulettebeater

Look here... in one screenshot you can see the results from a roulette wheel, and in the other screenshot you see how the software predicted the result successfuly......guys, it's complicated!

in this case it's hot hit because it picked the same number, sometimes the result is just one or two pockets aside
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

cht

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 17, 01:32 PM 2017
Look here... in one screenshot you can see the results from a roulette wheel, and in the other screenshot you see how the software predicted the result successfuly......guys, it's complicated!

in this case it's hot hit because it picked the same number, sometimes the result is just one or two pockets aside
Do you notice something about the historical results and the prediction numbers ?

Mark the numbers on a chart wheel to see what I mean. :smile:

Roulettebeater

Quote from: cht on Oct 17, 01:38 PM 2017
Do you notice something about the historical results and the prediction numbers ?

Mark the numbers on a chart wheel to see what I mean. :smile:

Good hint, cht!
i never looked at that!! but i think this might justify why we sometimes get multiple hits in one zone of the wheel!
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Roulettebeater

Guys, here another test.. this time 6 was predicted and the result came 34...just one pocket below
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

cht

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 17, 01:48 PM 2017
Guys, here another test.. this time 6 was predicted and the result came 34...just one pocket below
Historical is majority top, prediction is majority bottom.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: cht on Oct 17, 01:51 PM 2017
Historical is majority top, prediction is majority bottom.

yes,no...maybe :)
I don't give a damn about the numbers, they are so sensitive, even a small effect can push the ball to the neighbour pocket... hopefuly we can cover neighbour numbers
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

psimoes

Quote from: kingmaq on Sep 21, 08:37 AM 2017
I have also my own system which works fine,  it achieves with pre-defined dealers a decent success rate, the only thing that for the rest of dealers especially those who spin the ball with multiple speed the success rate drops down sometimes to circa 4 consecutive losses.

Bye
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Oct 17, 01:14 PM 2017

frankly, my dear, i don't give a damn about dealer change!


ROTFL

make up your mind  :twisted:
[Math+1] beats a Math game

cht

Dealers do make a lot of difference. There's the senior dealer whose spins are more smooth, stable and consistent. The junior dealers are inconsistent and they usually go for long hard spins.

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