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Started by Kav, Jan 18, 04:38 AM 2018

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Steve

I explained many times. Usually ts not understood, and proper testing is not done. What's left is opinion and inaccurate perception.
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vladir

Quote from: Steve on Jan 19, 07:38 AM 2018
I don't think so, but there are countless other combinations i never saw either. Before you think its proof you can make a winning system around this principle, keep this in mind......

Test a hypothetical wheel with 5 numbers. All the principles are the same as a wheel with 37 numbers. And clearly any combination of spins will occur as often as another, including 5 unique numbers in 5 spins. The only difference with 37 pockets is more possibilities.

Here's an easy test. Get a file with a few billion spins. Use my free software and check for a sequence of spins like 0,0,0. Or 1,2,3, or 3,2,1, or 34,8,16.

The software tells you how many times these sequences spin. You'll find they happen around the same amount of times.

There's more to it, but its a simple demonstration that hot or cold numbers is fallacy. So is the impossibility of 37 unique numbers in 37 spins. Its just another combination of spins.

I think the point here is that a combination of 37 uniques has the same chance as any other combination of spins.
However, there are more possible combinations of spins with any chosen repeat number, then there are combinations of 37 uniques.  For example, I can have more possible combinations where number 0 repeats at least once, then combinations of 37 uniques. Do the math. No ofense.
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

Steve

QuoteDo the math. No ofense.

Groups of combinations are more likely because there are more of the possible outcomes in each group. Knowing this doesn't at all help, because you still don't know which group with any change in certainty. I understand the math. I'm not offended by your misunderstanding.
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Steve

And besides, this is what i dont get. If I'm just  the ignorant one with a closed mind, why aren't any system players making millions? Why do we only hear about the math, logic, thinking, ap guys?
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Tinsoldiers

Quote from: Steve on Jan 19, 07:00 PM 2018And besides, this is what i dont get
you are right. The thing is knowing this doesn’t help. But looks like people are claiming it does help and not ready to share.  Now it is up to readers who want to pursue this further. Some might spend some effort to pursue this further and fail. Some like cht might end up somewhere.  Either ways it is time well spent rather than getting into arguments talking about something which has not been detailed in the first place.

Steve

Usually enough about a system is released to know the general principle of bet selection. If people properly tested principles there wouldn't be any argument.
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sentinel3

Quote from: Steve on Jan 19, 07:00 PM 2018
And besides, this is what i dont get. If I'm just  the ignorant one with a closed mind, why aren't any system players making millions? Why do we only hear about the math, logic, thinking, ap guys?
Because they would be shut down Steve. Do you really think an online casino/bookmaker or even a walk in casino. Is gonna stand by and let someone fleece them?

I think with your experience you should know better. Ive had online casinos get funny with me for winning a few hundred quid.

They dont like winners Steve. I have 10 online accounts. And I have to rotate around them. So I never win on anyone more than once a week.

I had a friend who won just 700 quid in one day from william hill. And they started to give him trouble.

So even if you have a system that you know is a winner Steve. You have to stay under the radar. And not win too much at one time to be ALLOWED to keep going.

Tell me Steve do you know any online casinos that will allow me to take 50k plus from them in one year. And  not stop my account? If you do please do tell..And I will join them TODAY.

Steve

Nonsense because millions can be made without detection if done carefully. But the people claiming to have the hg or at least the secret have probably not even made $10k
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Steve

Especially if you had a system that so easily blended in with the typical bets casinos expect cannot possibly have a legitimate edge, it would be very easy to win millions.
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sentinel3

Quote from: Steve on Jan 20, 05:39 AM 2018
Nonsense because millions can be made without detection if done carefully. But the people claiming to have the hg or at least the secret have probably not even made $10k
Well this is where you explain how to do that.

sentinel3

Quote from: Steve on Jan 20, 05:47 AM 2018
Especially if you had a system that so easily blended in with the typical bets casinos expect cannot possibly have a legitimate edge, it would be very easy to win millions.
Tell me how Steve. WINNING attracts attention. How do I even take a grand a day off a casino without them stopping me???

6th-sense

I had problems a few years back with William Hill sportsbook withdrawing money...the hoops I had to go through with evidence it was me...showing bank transfers into my account..proof of who I was ..etc but was fine when it was eventually sorted...now I’ve had no problems withdrawing...my best advice which I think works for me is withdrawing from the mobile app side..I don’t know why but I’ve never had any problems and it’s in my bank account in 3 days...
As to changing odds into your favour I think my sector system 2 shows you can have a bit of an edge ...knowing that your outcome happens more than lose...and the way the profit return of the win by betting the double dozen progression on a 10 unit split instead of 12 splits gives the odds advantage..

.the selection itself is based on the law of the third that two thirds of sectors on average in 9 spins..ie average 6

Knowing this and the trigger I set and the odds bet with a return win profit higher than you would expect becouse of the offset of splits selected could be along the lines of probability and odds in your favour...

So long as you have more wins than losses on any system your a winner

6th-sense

Hope you all understand that this explanation means you look at odds differently...not the probability that something is due to the odds..the system selection gives you that probability .but by changing the payout of the odds in your favour towards the probability..hope I’ve explained that right

sentinel3

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 20, 06:46 AM 2018
I had problems a few years back with William Hill sportsbook withdrawing money...the hoops I had to go through with evidence it was me...showing bank transfers into my account..proof of who I was ..etc but was fine when it was eventually sorted...now I’ve had no problems withdrawing...my best advice which I think works for me is withdrawing from the mobile app side..I don’t know why but I’ve never had any problems and it’s in my bank account in 3 days...
As to changing odds into your favour I think my sector system 2 shows you can have a bit of an edge ...knowing that your outcome happens more than lose...and the way the profit return of the win by betting the double dozen progression on a 10 unit split instead of 12 splits gives the odds advantage..

.the selection itself is based on the law of the third that two thirds of sectors on average in 9 spins..ie average 6

Knowing this and the trigger I set and the odds bet with a return win profit higher than you would expect becouse of the offset of splits selected could be along the lines of probability and odds in your favour...

So long as you have more wins than losses on any system your a winner
Yes 6th sense..When you are losing they love you. Hey chum deposit some more money and lets watch you lose that too.

But as soon as you start winning consistently their attitude changes. I had been with one site for two years. But had lost more than I won on it.

Since September when i started playing PB. My winnings have increased my innitial 40 quid deposit 5 times. Not alot of money. But all of a sudden they wanted me to prove my age and national status.

How come MY AGE AND NATIONAL STATUS DIDNT MATTER WHEN I WAS LOSING??? See theres alot of sour grape greedy dishonest people on these sites.

Thats why I said to Steve show me a site that loves WINNERS. And im heading straight there.

Strange when put on the spot about how to win big without getting banned. He couldnt anwser that. And has gone awol.

And that is why you dont hear of anyone winning millions at this game over time. Not that it cant be done.

The people watching wont allow it. They really wont. I can see myself reaching a point. Where i will have to go to real casinos to play this system.

As once I reach the level  im heading for 100 quid a day. No online casino will allow that for long. I can just see it happening.

6th-sense

Yep they were pretty hard to please and I’ve had the same arguments you have by the sounds of it ...but since I’ve gone through that and used the mobile app I’ve had no problems since...I’ve withdrawn over £1200 before now in one hit and even get emails soon after to rate there service...

But they are a nightmare at the beginning and sometimes during been through it all with them

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