PATTERN BREAKER test results

[denzie]

The PB player is taking advantage of a 10-20% edge over the Casino. If you play the same you will enjoy such advantage. What other method can you use that gives similar player advantage?

Wait whuuuuut? Hell no !

Systems like this are just slowing the variance down (mostly). But without any doubt its coming to get you. If you think otherwise i suggest you stop playing this random game 

[denzie]

So what's different about the first bet of the day?

My opinion - nothing.  Just luck again.

Bingooooo 

[psimoes]

it takes smarts to be a winner

Replace "smarts" with "luck" and all that will make sense.

Otherwise that only gives scammers, attention seekers and compulsive liars a good excuse for them to carry on with their agendas.

[psimoes]

No it means the Casino got lucky. But its only getting lucky 1 in every 10+ spins. Calculate the win/loss ratio in terms of 100 spins. The PB player is taking advantage of a 10-20% edge over the Casino. If you play the same you will enjoy such advantage. What other method can you use that gives similar player advantage?

cheers,
Ricky

PB has a major flaw right at its core. Why should we believe in that winloss ratio?

[RouletteGhost]

All roulette bets are flawed for the same reason: house edge and unfair payout

I have no reason not to believe PB results because I have duplicated them

Doesn’t matter how you play roulette. Same house edge.

[psimoes]

All roulette bets are flawed for the same reason: house edge and unfair payout

I have no reason not to believe PB results because I have duplicated them

Doesn’t matter how you play roulette. Same house edge.

That doesn´t make sense. If all roulette bets are flawed, how can you not have a reason to doubt about PB?

[SWEET]

Imho,
What the probability for a "matrix of three- EC" to hit=1/8...

The trillion dollar question, is what the probability of a last-matrix 3, of a particular 3 EC, that not yet hit,
To hit IMMEDIATELY,  after SEVEN OF THEM HAD APPEARED?

What the % chance of the last, yet to hit, matrix3, hit after all seven had hit?
Mathboys shrieking itis 1/7,
But as .a group of pattern probability...

Say, there only eight kind of color, of cars in a city, after seven color has stop at the traffic light, will the last color stop at the traffic light?  Imho, the probability is small...
It like having 8 color of marbles, in a box, take one out and replace it back, after 7 color taken out, will the next color be the eighth color?
This is a question of, after 7 color permutations appeared, will the next color be the 8th color?

Permutation of 7 are huge, and what the chance probability, of 7permutation turn to 8permutation, immediately after the last color of 7th permutation, turn to 8color permutation, any mathboys here?

[SWEET]

 Thus if we have , say color1, color2, color3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8...
Then the shortest permutation chances=12345678 permutation, and the longest is infinity of nowhere we see a permutation of 8 type of color, only 7color..
Thus what the chances of after  "first  permutation of 7colot hit",  no mztter the length...
the eighth color hit?

[sugtips]

Imho,
What the probability for a "matrix of three- EC" to hit=1/8...

The trillion dollar question, is what the probability of a last-matrix 3, of a particular 3 EC, that not yet hit,
To hit IMMEDIATELY,  after SEVEN OF THEM HAD APPEARED?

What the % chance of the last, yet to hit, matrix3, hit after all seven had hit?
Mathboys shrieking itis 1/7,
But as .a group of pattern probability...

Say, there only eight kind of color, of cars in a city, after seven color has stop at the traffic light, will the last color stop at the traffic light?  Imho, the probability is small...
It like having 8 color of marbles, in a box, take one out and replace it back, after 7 color taken out, will the next color be the eighth color?
This is a question of, after 7 color permutations appeared, will the next color be the 8th color?

Permutation of 7 are huge, and what the chance probability, of 7permutation turn to 8permutation, immediately after the last color of 7th permutation, turn to 8color permutation, any mathboys here?

Thanks God and Good Morning All.

Thanks SWEET for this post.

It's like same as me and some senior members (RG etc) has discussed earlier for rare or rarest pattern chances/events of occurrences. specially what are the chances of these type of rare patterns to come at my local bm casino at the time when I am playing?

regards,
SugTips

[luckyfella]

What the % chance of the last, yet to hit, matrix3, hit after all seven had hit?
Mathboys shrieking itis 1/7,

Mathboyz are correct....ur math is the usual wrong......if u learn that u might have learnt something

[Joe]

As this topic has resurfaced I thought I would look over the thread again at the responses. I stand by my test results, and I'm highly sceptical of JL's claims, given his track record. But if he is/was telling the truth, there must be something else he's taking account of which tells him when to start betting and when to quit, because taken in isolation, the probability of the last pattern coming up immediately after the second to last has hit is 1 in 8.

But I like ego's reply.

So the probability and the true odds come in cycles and are not static as Coder Joes Test Results. So when coder joe code the pattern breaker he make it continues flow where there is no beginning or end of the results. Each day a gambler enter the table he does not know what the wheel has done or will do in the future. But coder joes test show us that you get sometimes several winning strikes that increase the probability hitting one winning bet once using hit and run as does are more then the losing selections.

I think this is right, but how to identify what he calls the "true" odds? In my opinion, the reason most systems fail is that they are simple minded and don't take account of all the factors which produce the outcomes on a spin by spin basis. They just take one concept in isolation and run with it. How can this approach expect to succeed when outcomes are random, or at least largely random? The essence of randomness is change so you need to adapt to the changes otherwise you too often find yourself on the wrong track and losses mount up.

So I don't think the answer lies in somehow redefining probability, it lies in taking account of the probabilities of more factors. Using an analogy from sports betting/ horse racing, a simple minded racing system would be to bet on the horse which won its last race. As a long term strategy this is highly unlikely to succeed, it would be much better if you were to include other factors like the similarity of the current track to the track where it last won, the record of the jockey, the age of the horse, the weather conditions, etc etc.
In the language of statistics, this is multivariate analysis (taking account of multiple variables). A univariate (single variable) analysis is a poor strategy for the prediction of something as complex as random or near random outcomes, you need to include more variables. Even so, it's more of an art than a science in my opinion.

[SWEET]

Its 1/8, try to edit, but too late, timeout

[Tekunda]

After so many years since the idea of Pattern Breaker has surfaced for the first time, shouldn't there a handful of people who have played this system extensively and are willing to share their genuine experience and their win/loose ratio?
On one side you have the math, but on the other side we should have real-life experiences from players using this system.
Is there someone willing to share his statistics in regard of Pattern Breaker?
I am very curious to see some statistics derived from genuine play and not from some computer model.