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PATTERN ATTACK®

Started by Andre Chass, Apr 07, 03:24 PM 2018

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ozon

Maybe they lose money against the pattern and start cheating.

cht

Quote from: ozon on Apr 08, 02:39 AM 2018
Maybe they lose money against the pattern and start cheating.
The decks can be pre-arranged against the pattern.

Better to play in b&m manual tables with partners.

Kattila

Or just create your own groups of numbers (ECs or whatever.....) and they have no idea what do you play.
Can do it with lines, streets, splits.....can be fixed groups ( like lines 1,3,5 group A and lines 2,4,6 group B) or dynamic groups you create in that moment and put them into the pattern you wish.

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Apr 08, 12:38 AM 2018
Just want to draw caution to this setup

B P B P B P
B P    P     
B
B
T


We have to treat it as an unmatched pattern.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Apr 08, 02:55 AM 2018
The decks can be pre-arranged against the pattern.

Better to play in b&m manual tables with partners.

There's no way the decks can be pre-arranged against the pattern.

The cards are shuffled live.


I think it's possible cheating on roulette but not baccarat.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: ozon on Apr 08, 02:39 AM 2018
Maybe they lose money against the pattern and start cheating.


There's no way the decks can be pre-arranged against the pattern.

The cards are shuffled live.


I think it's possible cheating on roulette but not baccarat.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 08, 05:57 AM 2018

There's no way the decks can be pre-arranged against the pattern.

The cards are shuffled live.


I think it's possible cheating on roulette but not baccarat.
Hi Andre,
Great start to what will be a good discussion on this method. As you pointed out this method can lose but it also can win big if you have the right mentality and as always those two words starting with D and P. I won't mentioned them in case I get caught using them excessively. ;D

Just to show you the potential here is a winning setup captured over the weekend.  I called it out before the Banker hit  but unfortunately had no moola on it.


This pattern does appear more often than you think. But with this casino the cards come pre shuffled so I am always way of the patterns generated. As Andre said the preference would be for a hand shuffled game. But the machine shuffled one can win also as the shuffle is done befored the game starts. If any foul play is going on the casino does not know you are waiting for this pattern unless you are playing it constantly on a machine which can track betting patterns

Cheers,
Ricky

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 07, 04:37 PM 2018
Thanks for the suggestion
My experience so far sees this pattern forming many times from 1 to 2 repeats but as the repeats increase the appear less often and thus if played strictly as described can be a long wait. The problem is that if you start using long progressions you will in evitably get caught in this rare occasions where it repeats 4, 5 or even 6 or more times. So the key to the success of this method will have to be in the betting progression used as with all methods.

I did describe in the PATTERN BREAKER thread a strategy for flat betting at the beginning of each repeat. Eg after 3 complete repeats BPP BPP BPP you start betting AGAINST B hitting for a fourth time. BUT you do not continue eith the next 2 bets in case it completes.
Optionally you do just a 1-2 at the start of each repeat. Eg after the above pattern complete you bet PB with 1-2
If it loses treat it as a loss but if the 4th repeat completes you either do another 1-2 against the 5th repeat etc
If you want you could incorporate a recovery but i think it is not needed and as the pattern continues it is more of a rare event
In all cases cover the tie after the first bet. It saved me many times

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 07, 04:37 PM 2018
Thanks for the suggestion
My experience so far sees this pattern forming many times from 1 to 2 repeats but as the repeats increase the appear less often and thus if played strictly as described can be a long wait. The problem is that if you start using long progressions you will in evitably get caught in this rare occasions where it repeats 4, 5 or even 6 or more times. So the key to the success of this method will have to be in the betting progression used as with all methods.

I did describe in the PATTERN BREAKER thread a strategy for flat betting at the beginning of each repeat. Eg after 3 complete repeats BPP BPP BPP you start betting AGAINST B hitting for a fourth time. BUT you do not continue eith the next 2 bets in case it completes.
Optionally you do just a 1-2 at the start of each repeat. Eg after the above pattern complete you bet PB with 1-2
If it loses treat it as a loss but if the 4th repeat completes you either do another 1-2 against the 5th repeat etc
If you want you could incorporate a recovery but i think it is not needed and as the pattern continues it is more of a rare event
In all cases cover the tie after the first bet. It saved me many times

cht

About online live dealer baccarat, I played with Betfair, Ladbrokes, 365, Dublinbet...... many years ago when they had a TV at the corner of the screen in those days.

I've thousands of shoes in my collection from many years.

You may win some, then the losing shoes will come.

That's my experience about playing online for years.

Closed all my accounts years ago except Dublinbet and another for testing purpose only.

I strongly recommend to play at b&m casino only.

You can win tens of thousands cash basis a day without question.

No threat of ban at all. :thumbsup:

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 08, 07:19 AM 2018
My experience so far sees this pattern forming many times from 1 to 2 repeats but as the repeats increase the appear less often and thus if played strictly as described can be a long wait. The problem is that if you start using long progressions you will in evitably get caught in this rare occasions where it repeats 4, 5 or even 6 or more times. So the key to the success of this method will have to be in the betting progression used as with all methods.

I did describe in the PATTERN BREAKER thread a strategy for flat betting at the beginning of each repeat. Eg after 3 complete repeats BPP BPP BPP you start betting AGAINST B hitting for a fourth time. BUT you do not continue eith the next 2 bets in case it completes.
Optionally you do just a 1-2 at the start of each repeat. Eg after the above pattern complete you bet PB with 1-2
If it loses treat it as a loss but if the 4th repeat completes you either do another 1-2 against the 5th repeat etc
If you want you could incorporate a recovery but i think it is not needed and as the pattern continues it is more of a rare event
In all cases cover the tie after the first bet. It saved me many times

Hey up Ricky

The player can use long progressions and win for days or weeks but there will come a day that you will be caught by a long bad run. And as long as the progression is, the player will lose all his bankroll. Long progression is suicide.

Actually I'm using 1, 2, 2 or 1 ,2 progression.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

An event I noticed is that the pattern will rarely form twice in the same shoe.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

boyd30

Do you think online casinos cheat CHT? Maybe the only game you can trust is when people playing by the table?

cht

Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 08, 02:55 PM 2018
Do you think online casinos cheat CHT? Maybe the only game you can trust is when people playing by the table?
From my long playing experience with many online casinos, I have no doubt it my mind they cheat. I can't prove it though.

It's a totally different experience playing at manual baccarat tables b&m casino. You get to see $500 to $10000 chip stacks per bet, whales with their $100k chip containers.

Yes the pitboss will disrupt the game sometimes especially when the crowd is winning big like slowing it down changing dealers or counting chips. But no one doubt the shoe at all.

I can only tell you my experience. But if you have no access to nearby b&m casino, then you have no choice. If you have never been to a b&m casino, especially those big properties with plenty tables I encourage you to make the trip there - opens your playing experience with the real thing.

cht

If you collect thousands of shoes from b&m casino compare it with online casino, you will see the difference.

The way I describe it is online shoes look like rng. There's this unmistaken characteric of reversion to the mean thing. You will only recognise this difference if you see large numbers of shoes from both sources.

Also with online casino you have only the most 6-7 tables. Large b&m casinos have 100+ tables to play at.

Imagine if you were to test a setup you just have to walk the entire property for 100shoes data. Repeat that walk every 11/2 hour for 100shoes data. If you stay at the property you can do that a couple of times.

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