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Started by jekhb76, Apr 15, 12:38 PM 2018

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jekhb76

Quote from: Nimo on Apr 16, 02:12 PM 2018
Run a gap test on loothog.  I have personally seen 5 number s not hit in 92 spins, probability of a hit BT spin 80 is 99.9999% so its rare, but happens
thanks, will have a look.
The reason i aksed is because i wanted to know, what bankroll is needed to play this system with three progressions.
min. 4 numbers and max. of 7 numbers in each dozen.
let's say that i needed 3 times a progression for 7 numbers (21 very extreme) if i can find out what the max spin cap is for 7 numbers, i could see how long a progression would be needed and so the total bankroll to play this without to worry. so close to HG as possible for that matter.

jekhb76

Just got me thinking,
this all method thing isn't nessesary at all.

if we look back when we have spun 37 numbers and 14 numbers remained unhit.
That's the same rare event, when i would have bet those exact 14 numbers from spin 1 all the way up to spin 37.
I wouldn't have a hit on one of those 14 numbers. Now this is a very rare even where we can profit from.
All i have to do is to calculate what the max spin cap is for 14 numbers ever recorded. If it can be used in a progression, we have ourselfs a HG.
that same goes for 15#, 16#, 17#, 18#, 19#, 20# and like i said max 7 numbers per dozen 21# numbers.
If we can find the extremes to these, and make a progression so it cannot lose, we have ourselfs a HG !!!!

Let's asume i play with 1 cents in RNG (yes i know, but for example purpose only)
and i have a bankroll of 500 euro, that's 50.000 units for playing with 1 cents. and a table limit of 300 euro (30.000)
that means if i have 14 unhit numbers on spin 37 (they sleps for this long) and i have a bank of 50.000 units, it means that i can play up to spin 53 ! every hit before or on spin 53, will grant me atleast 1 unit profit. Now i don't know about you, but i haven't seen 14 numbers slept for 53 spins in my life. Don't say it isn't possible, but i never seen this.

The General

JEKHB76,


Do you need some numbers from live wheels?  I'm not going to offer an opinion on anything in the thread, but if you'd like some numbers to test on other than an RNG then I can help you out.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

jekhb76

Quote from: The General on Apr 16, 03:23 PM 2018
JEKHB76,


Do you need some numbers from live wheels?  I'm not going to offer an opinion on anything in the thread, but if you'd like some numbers to test on other than an RNG then I can help you out.
Thanks, but i did some tests with numbers from Random.org about 250 cycles of 37 spins, and never got above spin 46 in these session. Don't say that they can't go beyond 50 spins (14 to 21) numbers, but it will be a hard Time getting there . 15 numbers i Have seen hit on spin 42 once. 16 numbers latest hit on spin 38. Etc etc.

jekhb76

Last test of 25 spin cycle sessions of 37 spins with 14-18 nonhit numbers

6 cycles of 37 spins had 14 UHN.
6 cycles of 37 spins had 16 UNN.
6 cycles of 37 spins had 18 UHN.
4 cycles of 37 spins had 17 UHN.
3 cycles of 37 spins had 15 UHN.

In order of Max spins until hit.

2
1
1
1
4
3
1
1
5
3
3
6
2
1
5
6
4
1
2
2
4
7
4
2
3

I would Have Made alot of money!
All sessions were done with numbers from Random.org

keepontryin

mind sharing how you played to get such results

jekhb76

Quote from: jekhb76 on Apr 16, 05:09 PM 2018
Last test of 25 spin cycle sessions of 37 spins with 14-18 nonhit numbers

6 cycles of 37 spins had 14 UHN.
6 cycles of 37 spins had 16 UNN.
6 cycles of 37 spins had 18 UHN.
4 cycles of 37 spins had 17 UHN.
3 cycles of 37 spins had 15 UHN.

In order of Max spins until hit.

2
1
1
1
4
3
1
1
5
3
3
6
2
1
5
6
4
1
2
2
4
7
4
2
3

I would Have Made alot of money!
All sessions were done with numbers from Random.org
Sorry friends, i Made a mistake by bringing text from another System i was testing into this one.

I ment,
Last 25 sessions of 37 spins that had 14 unhit numbers in them.

jekhb76

Quote from: keepontryin on Apr 16, 05:15 PM 2018
mind sharing how you played to get such results
Nothing Special.
Just record All the unhit numbers from last spin cycle there must be atleast 12 in them and bet them acording the progression on loothog.

Nimo

30 million test spins, highest level for 12 numbers was 68 spins, maybe work with a modified labby
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

jekhb76

I know the basics for playing repeaters is as follows;

Start betting once a number repeats itself for the First Time and add became a 2peat, add 1 unit to this number. Do this for every number that becomes a 2. As soon as a number becomes a 3, we add 1 More unit to it, Make it 2 chips Total on every repeater  that becomes a 3peater.
Every 3 peater becoming a 4peater we place a Total of 4 units on it and continue as above.
We do this for as Long as we like everytime a number repeats itself using the following progression;
2s - 1 unit
3s - 2 units
4s - 4 units
5s - 8 units
6s - 16 units
7s - 32 units
8s - 64 units

For as Long as you like and the Table limits can handle it.

A side Note, what i do is whenever a repeat doesn't show itself again above average (More then 1 hit) i Will Delete that number from our list.
As soon as a deleted number repeats itself again for a min. Of 2 Times in a cycle it will be added again. This for keeping the Flow.

Again, this is the basics to my method and An even More agressive possitive progression can handle larger drawbacks, but also a bigger bankroll is needed.

This is how i play repeaters, and i personaly think it's the best way to play it, atleast for me. Some sessions can be very Lucky, some sessions can be a real grind and some sessions you lose money, not a HG by far, but it makes me a good Living and as Long as it is working for me, why should i change it? The only thing i change from Time to Time is the progression.
I've been playing like this for More then 9 months now and with a daily goal of +â,¬100,00 i'm Fine with it. It wins More for me then that it loses.

For All repeater fans, play this on a daily basis until you reach â,¬100 and stop for that day. Play it for a month and Tell me how you did. I use a basis bank of 5000. Euro. Never in those 9 months i lost my bank, and it the profit is now Just above â,¬22.000 euro. Not bad if you think that i started with 2500 euro. Since last july.

See i can share a full System with you guys, if only others did also (a few do it already).

boyd30

You must have a stoploss? As you say you lose some money also.  Else you could lose your whole bank.

Lucky7Red

Don't like any progression based system not sure you playing this nine months.
when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth?

denzie

Quote from: Lucky7Red on Apr 17, 02:46 PM 2018not sure you playing this nine months.

Since he plays online.... he can prove it . Right ?
As spins roll off our predictions get better

psimoes

Jeck, when sharing a system always specify how many euros or cents per unit. Ex: 100 euros at 10 euros a unit is a sort of modest wingoal. 100 euros wingoal at 1cent per unit is a msjor achievement. It helps testers determine system's ambition/potential.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

jekhb76

Quote from: psimoes on Apr 17, 03:04 PM 2018
Jeck, when sharing a system always specify how many euros or cents per unit. Ex: 100 euros at 10 euros a unit is a sort of modest wingoal. 100 euros wingoal at 1cent per unit is a msjor achievement. It helps testers determine system's ambition/potential.
Well it depends, on how much Time i Have on a day. I Have 5 kids so don't Always Have much free Time.
Most of the Time i use a very agressive progression, and stop once in profit.
When i Have More spare Time i play a slower progression with a smaller basebet, and sometimes i don't even reach my daily goal at once. Sometimes i play a few sessions a day to reach that.
I started once with 1 cent rng online with a bank of 5000 units (50 euro) and everytime i doubled my bank i would play a higher stake as a basebet. Once i was able to play with 1 euro as a basebet i would play live online. Now i only play my System in my local landbased casino with a 5 euro table min. When i don't Have Time to do it i play online, but 90% of the Time i play live in. Real casino with a High basebet.

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