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“Biased” wheel players may win due to luck. Non existent, sort of like vampires

Started by RouletteGhost, Apr 15, 08:29 PM 2018

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The General

Quoteive read about it

you see, i dont speak without reading

i read a university study talking about wheels that are not level leading to a bias


Ermm...A level wheel doesn't lead to number bias or sector bias.  However some people refer to a dominant ball drop as being a type of bias.  Perhaps that's what you're referring to???

To what university study are you referring?
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Turner

Quote from: The General on Apr 16, 09:16 PM 2018By the way, the guy shaking his head is Mike from "Breaking Bad" and "Better Call Saul."  Both are fabulous TV series worth watching.  A new season of Better Call Saul starts later this year!
Never started Breaking bad. I know I should have.
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RouletteGhost

an unlevel wheel would most certainly lead to a sector bias

either the airball machines have level sensors or they are rigged
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RouletteGhost

Quote from: Turner on Apr 16, 09:24 PM 2018
Never started Breaking bad. I know I should have.
Walking Dead kinda took president. 8 series in 4 month
Fkin awesome show.

does the UK even have tv series? or is everything american? lol
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The General

Breaking bad is FABULOUS.  It takes a while to get into it.  It's best to watch it several episodes at a time.
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The General

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 16, 09:24 PM 2018
an unlevel wheel would most certainly lead to a sector bias



Ghost,

Why on earth do you believe that an off level wheel would lead to a sector bias???   :o

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RouletteGhost

is that a real question...if the wheel is not on level ground, even by a millimeter over many many spins one sector would not be favored as much
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RouletteGhost

stanford university:

As we will see, if the wheel is not perfectly level, such a bias appears. Even with minor tilt, the wheel can create a forbidden zone where the ball is very unlikely to land.


link:://large.stanford.edu/courses/2007/ph210/hall1/
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The General

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 16, 09:35 PM 2018
stanford university:

As we will see, if the wheel is not perfectly level, such a bias appears. Even with minor tilt, the wheel can create a forbidden zone where the ball is very unlikely to land.


link:://large.stanford.edu/courses/2007/ph210/hall1/

Ghost,

I can see why you're confused.   The type of bias that they're referring to relates to the bowl, not the spinning rotor.  Meaning it doesn't create a number sector bias, but rather a bias drop zone.  They are referring to a section of the bowl, not numbers on the wheel.  Understand?

For what it's worth, most wheels are off level just a bit, but they don't create number sector biases, just drop zones.  Also drop zones don't form from just off level wheels.  Many are manufactured unintentionally into the wheel via turning, finishing, curing, or normal expansion and contraction of the bowl, and then are locked into place by self leveling mechanisms available on some wheel designs.  In the world of VB some of these self leveling wheels are the players delight and the greatest invention since Swiss Cheese.
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Quote from: RouletteGhost on Apr 16, 08:50 PM 2018the idea that you can observe a few thousand spins and claim a bias is utterly asinine

Actually its not. You can actually do it in far less. It's not that complicated. RG you are criticizing Caleb for being a naysayer, but are doing the same thing. Even worse, you aren't actually supporting your argument, and you have no experience in this field. It seems more like you are making arguments to spite him - not to contribute.

At the moment, you are trolling Caleb. You dont need to participate in discussions with him. You can ignore him. You can post only in the "system players only" area. You do not need to go on and on about how evil Caleb is.

If he trolls people, the solution is a click away. So relax. How he behaves to people at GF or elsewhere is not my concern. I only care about behavior of members at my own forum.
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RouletteGhost

Quote from: Steve on Apr 16, 10:24 PM 2018
Actually its not. You can actually do it in far less. It's not that complicated. RG you are criticizing Caleb for being a naysayer, but are doing the same thing. Even worse, you aren't actually supporting your argument, and you have no experience in this field. It seems more like you are making arguments to spite him - not to contribute.

At the moment, you are trolling Caleb. You dont need to participate in discussions with him. You can ignore him. You can post only in the "system players only" area. You do not need to go on and on about how evil Caleb is.

If he trolls people, the solution is a click away. So relax. How he behaves to people at GF or elsewhere is not my concern. I only care about behavior of members at my own forum.

You can’t be serious. 99% of his threads are in an effort to troll or spite someone

What you see here is a taste of his own medicine. You and him will survive.

And I am backing up my claims

They must be inconvenient truths
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The General

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RouletteGhost

Not really

#1 - downstate NY Is only airball wheels. I question their legitimacy

#2 - even in the rare circumstance you found a biased wheel, you still need a large capital

The fight isn’t worth it
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