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Solve this, solve the HG.

Started by daveylibra, May 17, 02:42 PM 2018

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Winner


Bigbroben

Fitzroy or Pluscoup method could also not be so bad.  Do not the ratios of w/l it can cover but there always this one time it comes back.  Can take a while though.
Add 1u per spin no matter if win or lose.  Reset at +1.

If 7l and 5w:
L  1  -1
L  2  -3
L  3  -6
L  4  -10
L  5  -15
L  6  -21
L  7  -28
W 8  -20
W 9  -11
W 10  -1
W   2  +1  (bet 2 not 11 to get to +1 and not lose too much if lose)

Not garanteed to win in 12 spins no matter what, but will at some point.
7 losses were recovered in  almost 3 w.

Never tested thoroughly, it also works with dozens.
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

vladir

Quote from: Roulettebeater on May 18, 12:31 PM 2018
Vladi

Thx for having posted your progression, before I dive into it, i would like to know the requirements when it can be profitable, can you sum them up ?

Basically it will be profitable if you know before playing how many guaranteed wins you are going to have in a certain ammount of spins.
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

vladir

Quote from: daveylibra on May 18, 02:07 PM 2018
Hi Vladi.
Sorry but what is meant by 0W combinations?

0 Wins... Only losses.
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

vladir

Quote from: daveylibra on May 18, 11:46 AM 2018
What's great about Vladir's formula is that it will work for ANY combination of W/L.
Now, the fabled 65 / 200. I'm willing to bet on 35 / 100.
What if we split it into 5 sets of 7 / 20 ?
We don't have to get 7 wins from 20 every time, just eventually.

Can we have minimum 16 wins in 50 spins playing EC?
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

Ricky

Quote from: Scarface on May 18, 11:26 AM 2018
A bit off topic, but just ran a few test with 12 spins.  Ran a 12 spin test for 15 times in a row for a total of 180 spins and noticed something that could be made into a system.

Just looking a red/black.  14 out of 15 runs of 12 spins, had at least one series of red or black repeat at least 3 times in a row.

Using a parlay progression, 1 unit will become 8 units with 3 consecutive hits

I think this could be worked into a good system
Hi Scarface,
If you are going to use parlay into a system why don't you try looking for a dozens/columns combination of 5 wins in a row. I'll give you an example, even though low probability I actually do see this combination appearing more often than you can imagine

Col or Doz
1-3-2-2-3

Use Parlay and get 1U - 3U - 9U - 27U - 81U

So you will turn 1U into 81U in five spins. Miss anyone of course you lose 1U

Try doing this on both Col and Doz simultaneously. You may get lucky and get one out of the two to form this pattern with a cost of 2U if you lose


Cheers,
Ricky

6th-sense

If it hits the last 81 units it’s 3 times that ..so ultimately its 243 units you win 😃

Roulettebeater

Quote from: vladir on May 19, 11:09 AM 2018
Basically it will be profitable if you know before playing how many guaranteed wins you are going to have in a certain ammount of spins.

I expected you would tell us the minimum required hitrate, as well as if it's useful for alternated results w/l.


Cheers

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

6th-sense

ok to help you look through your stats better RE and every one else i,ve attatched a bit of software so i hope it works.exctract the rar file file.
  inside the list of is a purple round circle with rpro written on it ...right click on it and run as administrator it should open up and run..do not use setup etc just right click on the purple sign.in the past results box it is set to COLOR click the tab choose numbers.
at the bottom is RUN LENGTH click the slider all the way to the left.
now when you start input your results and you have a few you can click on calculate and it,ll tell you what came after the number you,ve calculated on etc.
results when saved are to end in .dat or .text.
you can copy and paste your own files in ther too i think up to 40 000.it,ll work too.
so for a test run you can press FILE in the top left hand corner and click on the one i,ve left in ..this is where you can copy and paste your own stats.a few features like undo don,t work and there is a help button to explain it properly....
its an invaluable tool and it should help everyone as you can scroll up and down in the results bar making a lot of things vey easy to look at

right click on purple icon circle and run as admin

an old post and software i think might be handy for everyone from 2011 i posted

6th-sense

Couple of pics very handy for someone

6th-sense

But maybe not everyone see what you think

jekhb76

Quote from: vladir on May 18, 12:07 PM 2018
The problem with 65/200 is that you will get out of table limits.  And the formula doesn't work for 0W combinations.
No you won't !! O0

jekhb76

Quote from: vladir on May 19, 12:03 PM 2018
Can we have minimum 16 wins in 50 spins playing EC?
18/60 Yes, you can !

jekhb76

Quote from: vladir on May 19, 11:09 AM 2018
Basically it will be profitable if you know before playing how many guaranteed wins you are going to have in a certain ammount of spins.
I Will bet for a thousand Bucks 18/60  O0

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