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Repeaters and Gaps

Started by Scarface, May 22, 04:40 PM 2018

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Scarface

Bigbroben, thanks for the testing!  Just wanted to make sure I'm reading this right.  If playing like I suggested, 2s to become 3s, then a 3s to become 4s, etc...looks like, on average you would only play somewhere between 2 to 4 numbers most of the time

Bigbroben

Yes, if you played this way.
There is a median of 7 uniques when a first repeater arrives, 4 repeaters when a 2-peater arrives, etc...

Here are the averages:


The previous are just infos and stats. 
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

nottophammer

BBB

what should happen 0x's v 1x's  then 0x's v 1x+>1x

Turbo 1's go 2's, 2's go 3's  you know the rest, but best to wait for 20 spins, he don't win on all he said



Baa,Baa,Baa goes the bleater

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Scarface

Noto, another strategy would be not to even play the 1 hitters and start with repeaters  :)

nottophammer

Exactly
The above is 148 spins, from 100 sets, showing why he say’s to bet when a number repeats.
And why it’s better to wait till spin 20, BBB and Dr Sudoku have said of this.
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Bigbroben

Quote from: nottophammer on Jul 16, 04:01 AM 2018
Exactly
The above is 148 spins, from 100 sets, showing why he say’s to bet when a number repeats.
And why it’s better to wait till spin 20, BBB and Dr Sudoku have said of this.

I would wait until 4 repeaters are out, maybe?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

nottophammer

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jul 16, 01:22 PM 2018
I would wait until 4 repeaters are out, maybe?
Yes BBB already said that, if the four hit before 20th spin,i'd still wait
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer



BBB nice set of spins from #18 what we say wait untill 20th spin
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

RayManZ

Here are some more statistics for repeaters. It's from a million random numbers.

The first number is the gap between a number appearing. So if the spins are: 1,31,1. The gap is 2.

So a back to back repeat happens 2.7% of the time for repeat.

This could give a great inside on when to stop betting on a certain number waiting for it to repeat.


Gap Amount Number % Total%
1: 26957 2.7% (2.7)%
2: 26096 2.6% (5.3)%
3: 25289 2.5% (7.8)%
4: 24951 2.5% (10.3)%
5: 24558 2.5% (12.8)%
6: 23881 2.4% (15.2)%
7: 22864 2.3% (17.5)%
8: 22259 2.2% (19.7)%
9: 21580 2.2% (21.8)%
10: 21019 2.1% (23.9)%
11: 20631 2.1% (26)%
12: 19942 2% (28)%
13: 19578 2% (30)%
14: 19043 1.9% (31.9)%
15: 18389 1.8% (33.7)%
16: 17854 1.8% (35.5)%
17: 17471 1.7% (37.2)%
18: 16853 1.7% (38.9)%
19: 16601 1.7% (40.6)%
20: 16389 1.6% (42.2)%
21: 15516 1.6% (43.8)%
22: 15066 1.5% (45.3)%
23: 14868 1.5% (46.8)%
24: 14277 1.4% (48.2)%
25: 14198 1.4% (49.6)%
26: 13490 1.3% (51)%
27: 13180 1.3% (52.3)%
28: 12623 1.3% (53.5)%
29: 12282 1.2% (54.8)%
30: 12168 1.2% (56)%
31: 11913 1.2% (57.2)%
32: 11654 1.2% (58.3)%
33: 11113 1.1% (59.5)%
34: 11050 1.1% (60.6)%
35: 10622 1.1% (61.6)%
36: 10373 1% (62.7)%
37: 9786 1% (63.6)%
38: 9821 1% (64.6)%
39: 9525 1% (65.6)%
40: 9461 0.9% (66.5)%
41: 8992 0.9% (67.4)%
42: 8772 0.9% (68.3)%
43: 8518 0.9% (69.2)%
44: 8340 0.8% (70)%
45: 8113 0.8% (70.8)%
46: 7920 0.8% (71.6)%
47: 7760 0.8% (72.4)%
48: 7396 0.7% (73.1)%
49: 7354 0.7% (73.8)%
50: 7111 0.7% (74.6)%
51: 6802 0.7% (75.2)%
52: 6670 0.7% (75.9)%
53: 6652 0.7% (76.6)%
54: 6504 0.7% (77.2)%
55: 6143 0.6% (77.8)%
56: 6032 0.6% (78.4)%
57: 5798 0.6% (79)%
58: 5769 0.6% (79.6)%
59: 5563 0.6% (80.1)%
60: 5389 0.5% (80.7)%
61: 5165 0.5% (81.2)%
62: 5057 0.5% (81.7)%
63: 4860 0.5% (82.2)%
64: 4860 0.5% (82.7)%
65: 4620 0.5% (83.1)%
66: 4542 0.5% (83.6)%
67: 4459 0.4% (84)%
68: 4275 0.4% (84.5)%
69: 4175 0.4% (84.9)%
70: 4095 0.4% (85.3)%
71: 3993 0.4% (85.7)%
72: 3906 0.4% (86.1)%
73: 3733 0.4% (86.5)%
74: 3706 0.4% (86.8)%
75: 3470 0.3% (87.2)%
76: 3463 0.3% (87.5)%
77: 3302 0.3% (87.9)%
78: 3312 0.3% (88.2)%
79: 3164 0.3% (88.5)%
80: 3200 0.3% (88.8)%
81: 2942 0.3% (89.1)%
82: 3031 0.3% (89.4)%
83: 2846 0.3% (89.7)%
84: 2808 0.3% (90)%
85: 2765 0.3% (90.3)%
86: 2625 0.3% (90.5)%
87: 2602 0.3% (90.8)%
88: 2525 0.3% (91)%
89: 2333 0.2% (91.3)%
90: 2394 0.2% (91.5)%
91: 2314 0.2% (91.7)%
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185: 189 0% (99.4)%
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187: 175 0% (99.4)%
188: 162 0% (99.4)%
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190: 171 0% (99.5)%
191: 129 0% (99.5)%
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197: 128 0% (99.6)%
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244: 33 0% (99.9)%
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254: 27 0% (99.9)%
255: 26 0% (99.9)%
256: 20 0% (99.9)%
257: 27 0% (99.9)%
258: 23 0% (99.9)%
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260: 18 0% (99.9)%
261: 17 0% (99.9)%
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275: 11 0% (100)%
276: 17 0% (100)%
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280: 14 0% (100)%
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291: 14 0% (100)%
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295: 6 0% (100)%
296: 12 0% (100)%
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302: 14 0% (100)%
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305: 9 0% (100)%
306: 3 0% (100)%
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310: 3 0% (100)%
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320: 2 0% (100)%
321: 3 0% (100)%
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324: 3 0% (100)%
325: 3 0% (100)%
326: 3 0% (100)%
327: 4 0% (100)%
328: 4 0% (100)%
329: 2 0% (100)%
330: 1 0% (100)%
331: 3 0% (100)%
332: 2 0% (100)%
333: 3 0% (100)%
334: 2 0% (100)%
336: 2 0% (100)%
337: 2 0% (100)%
339: 3 0% (100)%
340: 3 0% (100)%
341: 2 0% (100)%
342: 2 0% (100)%
343: 3 0% (100)%
344: 2 0% (100)%
345: 2 0% (100)%
346: 3 0% (100)%
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352: 2 0% (100)%
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359: 1 0% (100)%
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367: 3 0% (100)%
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371: 2 0% (100)%
373: 1 0% (100)%
375: 3 0% (100)%
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378: 1 0% (100)%
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425: 1 0% (100)%
429: 1 0% (100)%
432: 1 0% (100)%
433: 1 0% (100)%
454: 1 0% (100)%
457: 1 0% (100)%
476: 1 0% (100)%
498: 1 0% (100)%
502: 1 0% (100)%

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: RayManZ on Jul 20, 12:34 PM 2018
Here are some more statistics for repeaters. It's from a million random numbers.

The first number is the gap between a number appearing. So if the spins are: 1,31,1. The gap is 2.

So a back to back repeat happens 2.7% of the time for repeat.

This could give a great inside on when to stop betting on a certain number waiting for it to repeat.




That is not a surprise at all.

That is exactly what basic probability tells us to expect -- since every spin is an independent event, the probability of a number appearing again on the very next spin is 1/37 = .0270 = 2.7%.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 20, 01:06 PM 2018
That is not a surprise at all.

That is exactly what basic probability tells us to expect -- since every spin is an independent event, the probability of a number appearing again on the very next spin is 1/37 = .0270 = 2.7%.


And if the same simulation is done with 38 numbers (for the double zero wheel), we will see that a back to back repeat will happen 2.6% of the time (1/38 = .026 = 2.6%).
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Mako

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Jul 20, 01:06 PM 2018
That is not a surprise at all.

That is exactly what basic probability tells us to expect -- since every spin is an independent event, the probability of a number appearing again on the very next spin is 1/37 = .0270 = 2.7%.

Read his post and thought the same thing Doc, sometimes we don't see the forest for the trees.... :twisted: :wink:

Ross

Some tests I did indicated that after 12 spins
a repeat isn't a repeat.  I haven't gone
any further except to think that if you're
looking at the balance of one-hit numbers
vs repeats you can ignore "repeats" that
haven't hit for 12 spins.
Eighty- four and counting.  Is age an excuse?

Bigbroben

In continuation of what I posted in the KTF thread:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16512.1530

Started using the 200k MPR spins provided by Steve, gathering stats of spins between 1st repeater and second, also between 2nd and 3rd, with all sorts of other stats.

I'll take 40 spins, process them with the macro, then delete the 5 first numbers, and run again, so on until all will be done.  Should give about 40k trials. 
Ok to remove 5 spins?  I guess so, it's another game started 5 spins later.

It's a slow process, about 2 seconds per trial, as opposed to 10 per second.  Anyway.  Will let it run overnight and see tomorrow.

Who knows, maybe there will be some heretic results!  ( A first 12500 trial was run with random.org spins, sure was an inconvenient truth!)

link:s://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/d42cba00-694a-4ff7-bcb9-48faf016199a
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

RouletteGhost

How is Seinfeld related and more puzzling is how “excuse me I’m gonna make love to your motha” from Seinfeld related.

lol
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

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