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#### Nimo

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##### Spiral System
Jun 16, 01:03 PM 2018
I posted this in 6th-sense back to basics thread, but a received a few pm's and emails about it so, I'm just clarifying it here.

Here is what I posted:

Interesting info so far, looking over the different sheets of spins, and knowing that the gaps between the numbers in numerical order, I think a spiral system would work wonders.  For example spin the wheel, the number 20 drops, for first bet place a unit on 20, if it wins start over, if not second bet, place a unit on 20, 19, 18,22.  If wins reset, if not bet on 16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24, etc etc adding a couple of numerical order neighbours each bet.  You would need a progression at some point, but by spin 7 you have 25 numbers covered and knowing that gaps are never wider than 12 numbers within 37 spins you should win every time.

I did a couple of tests using the following progression
1,1,1,1,2,5,16 and reached over +100 units within 37 spins each time.  Bankroll for the progression is 567 units.

Maybe someone with better excel skills than I have could test distance between first spin number and seventh spin number and see if they fall within the 25 numerical number order gap of the progression.

In the attached graph I started with the \$3000 roulette simulator gives you, First large drop is at spin 226 when I hit \$6000 I double the unit size to \$10.  At spin 527 the progression hit a loss of all 7 steps.  Net step in a progression would be \$82 per unit and would require a bankroll of \$2945 for the \$1 unit.  Personally I would risk it as you are betting on 29 numbers and I have the bankroll to absorb it.  Otherwise a milder progression would still work as you will hit higher than 99% of the time within 7 spins. This progression is set up to profit after each win. Maybe a modified labby of 111122223333 etc.

I was also asked what happens around the late 30's numbers and zero, I'm treating as a circular layout so it would just wrap around ,so here are the bets:

"0"
Step 1 Bet 1 unit on 0; win, respin to get new number, loss go to step 2
Step 2 Bet 1 unit on 0,1,2,36,35; win, respin to get new number, loss go to step 3
Step 3 Bet 1 unit on 0,1,2,3,4,36,35,34,33; win, respin to get new number, loss go to step 4
Step 4 Bet 1 unit on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,36,35,34,33,32,31; win repsin to get new number, loss go to step 5
Step 5 Bet 2 units on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29; win respin to get new number, loss go to step 6
Step 6 Bet 5 units on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29,28,27, win respin to get new number, loss go to step 7
Step 7 Bet 16 units on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29,28,27,26,25, win respin to get new number, loss either stop or go to step 8
Step 8 bet 82 units on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29,28,27,26,25,24,23, win respin to get new number, loss, STOP

Progression is aggressive, the bets are many numbers, so not practical for live wheel, but overall profitable. Also on roulette simulator you can see the video of this graph under Nimo.

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#### 6th-sense

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 16, 01:14 PM 2018
I posted this in 6th-sense back to basics thread, but a received a few pm's and emails about it so, I'm just clarifying it here.

Here is what I posted:

Interesting info so far, looking over the different sheets of spins, and knowing that the gaps between the numbers in numerical order, I think a spiral system would work wonders.  For example spin the wheel, the number 20 drops, for first bet place a unit on 20, if it wins start over, if not second bet, place a unit on 20, 19, 18,22.  If wins reset, if not bet on 16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24, etc etc adding a couple of numerical order neighbours each bet.  You would need a progression at some point, but by spin 7 you have 25 numbers covered and knowing that gaps are never wider than 12 numbers within 37 spins you should win every time.

I did a couple of tests using the following progression
1,1,1,1,2,5,16 and reached over +100 units within 37 spins each time.  Bankroll for the progression is 567 units.

Maybe someone with better excel skills than I have could test distance between first spin number and seventh spin number and see if they fall within the 25 numerical number order gap of the progression.

In the attached graph I started with the \$3000 roulette simulator gives you, First large drop is at spin 226 when I hit \$6000 I double the unit size to \$10.  At spin 527 the progression hit a loss of all 7 steps.  Net step in a progression would be \$82 per unit and would require a bankroll of \$2945 for the \$1 unit.  Personally I would risk it as you are betting on 29 numbers and I have the bankroll to absorb it.  Otherwise a milder progression would still work as you will hit higher than 99% of the time within 7 spins. This progression is set up to profit after each win. Maybe a modified labby of 111122223333 etc.

I was also asked what happens around the late 30's numbers and zero, I'm treating as a circular layout so it would just wrap around ,so here are the bets:

"0"
Step 1 Bet 1 unit on 0; win, respin to get new number, loss go to step 2
Step 2 Bet 1 unit on 0,1,2,36,35; win, respin to get new number, loss go to step 3
Step 3 Bet 1 unit on 0,1,2,3,4,36,35,34,33; win, respin to get new number, loss go to step 4
Step 4 Bet 1 unit on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,36,35,34,33,32,31; win repsin to get new number, loss go to step 5
Step 5 Bet 2 units on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29; win respin to get new number, loss go to step 6
Step 6 Bet 5 units on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29,28,27, win respin to get new number, loss go to step 7
Step 7 Bet 16 units on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29,28,27,26,25, win respin to get new number, loss either stop or go to step 8
Step 8 bet 82 units on 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,36,35,34,33,32,31,30,29,28,27,26,25,24,23, win respin to get new number, loss, STOP

Progression is aggressive, the bets are many numbers, so not practical for live wheel, but overall profitable. Also on roulette simulator you can see the video of this graph under Nimo.
Great post Nimo

#### Kairomancer

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 19, 03:52 PM 2018
Anyone can code this system in RX?
I would love to see a graph how this holds up in 50k spins with the 8 step progression covering 29 numbers outlined.

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 04:37 AM 2018
Ignoring zero, there is a cheaper way to play something like this.

Bet
1 on 1 number; If win(+35)
1 on 1 split;If win(+16)
1 on a line;If win(+9)
1 on a square;If win(+4)
1 on a double line;If win(+1)
3 on a dozen;If win(+1)
9 on E.C.;If win(+1)
18 on double dozens;If win(+1)

If you lose all, total loss is only 53 units.
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#### Nimo

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 04:55 AM 2018
Ignoring zero, there is a cheaper way to play something like this.

Bet
1 on 1 number; If win(+35)
1 on 1 split;If win(+16)
1 on a line;If win(+9)
1 on a square;If win(+4)
1 on a double line;If win(+1)
3 on a dozen;If win(+1)
9 on E.C.;If win(+1)
18 on double dozens;If win(+1)

If you lose all, total loss is only 53 units.

Or with just lines, splits and quads won't work if numbers on first and third column are consecutive.

Playing with real money I had it go to 31 steps.
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#### cht

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 07:13 AM 2018
1st test.
You will only be as clever and as stupid as the roulette "experts" on forum.

#### Blueprint

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 07:57 AM 2018
Might want to reconsider that first bet.

#### cht

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 08:48 AM 2018
Another 2 sessions. It gets boring after a while.

Good method Nimo !
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#### Anastasius

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 09:49 AM 2018
Do the guy or guys who run roulettesimuator.info ever come here? I beat a huge smple on martingale tester but flat and wrote to the page and got back weird responses within a week the tester never worked again I'm convinced he stole it cus a mate tested it on rx and it beat another hundred thousand spins bet every spin.... I'm suspicious about that tester particular the testers he has I know what I saw and I'm a honest person ...I just asked is ur tester cacltuating corrected and he fuked it
Boom boom sir

#### Anastasius

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 09:52 AM 2018
I play a modified turbo street kinda thing..... Its beat phenomonal samples worth...real life +700 then Downswing cause iv never finished my tests....its hard if u not good at testers .who's the most reliable person on here with rx if u have to nominate someone else jus to sus it out.prefer a religious ?? And American cus ur all double zero wheels cheers
Boom boom sir

#### 6th-sense

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 10:12 AM 2018
Do the guy or guys who run roulettesimuator.info ever come here? I beat a huge smple on martingale tester but flat and wrote to the page and got back weird responses within a week the tester never worked again I'm convinced he stole it cus a mate tested it on rx and it beat another hundred thousand spins bet every spin.... I'm suspicious about that tester particular the testers he has I know what I saw and I'm a honest person ...I just asked is ur tester cacltuating corrected and he fuked it

I believe Ricky can code rx ask him he may do it

#### Anastasius

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 10:46 AM 2018
Ok thanks... Someone can do rx and believes in a god or that Jesus really did miracles only. My method was developed thru many prayers so if u snake me something will happen to u . I ask for a religious to chat me.
Boom boom sir

#### cht

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 11:45 AM 2018
Last test on RS with rated game. Hits 5000 units win in 58 spins. Time to test on live dealer roulette wheel.
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#### Nimo

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 12:15 PM 2018
Last test on RS with rated game. Hits 5000 units win in 58 spins. Time to test on live dealer roulette wheel.

Don't get too bored!  It has hit up to step 11 on my real money testing, but by that point it was well into profit.
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#### 6th-sense

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##### Re: Spiral System
Jun 20, 12:16 PM 2018
Last test on RS with rated game. Hits 5000 units win in 58 spins. Time to test on live dealer roulette wheel.
Are you using Nimo original progression cht ?

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