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Started by ignatus, Aug 04, 04:02 AM 2018

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ignatus

Quote from: Mako on Aug 08, 02:48 AM 2018
I decided to do a batch of 10 tests playing off of the limited progression I mentioned earlier (1-1-1 / 2-2-2 / 4-4-4 / 8-8-8 / RESET) with a hit and run mentality, +100u / -300u target stoploss, on RX RNG with the tougher 00 wheel.

It did pretty well,  9/10 wins, net of +771u total.

Easy to play, no real tracking, it's painless.


Great  :thumbsup: i guess i stick to this one , because this has a strong trigger, and good result.
(The others) have not such good results and drawdowns can be bad etc...

Thanks again Mako :)

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"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

Mako

Quote from: ignatus on Aug 08, 03:09 AM 2018
Great  :thumbsup: i guess i stick to this one , because this has a strong trigger, and good result.
(The others) have not such good results and drawdowns can be bad etc...

Thanks again Mako :)

I've tried most of your others for fun Ignatus and this one is one of your best.  Good stuff.  :thumbsup:

ignatus

Did another test with your MM Mako, +100/-300... i got another 9/10 Games won   O0

(i don't think Wingoal should be higher than 100u, it's hitn'run)

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Kattila

Just made me remember....
The Fun Factory (good music)     :thumbsup:

link:s://youtu.be/r4U1EHoNfO0

ignatus

Well, third session, not so lucky, 7/10 Games won,

If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

junscissorhands

Any system that relies on luck is no better than betting randomly.
Don't be so naive.

ignatus

Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 08, 10:56 AM 2018
Any system that relies on luck is no better than betting randomly.

Well! Sry for my bad english then? :/ that's how you use to say, ? also, your comment, ...??

so far, i've won 25/30 Games= That's about a 83% winrate, ....Now ofc more testing is needed,

But calculate on the profits/ losses yourself, and see? what else should i prove? you win more than you lose,
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

Mako

Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 08, 10:56 AM 2018
Any system that relies on luck is no better than betting randomly.

True, but we mere mortals who don't have David's system have to use shenanigans like this Jun...it's all us poor bastards have got  :twisted:

Mako

Quote from: ignatus on Aug 08, 11:23 AM 2018
Well! Sry for my bad english then? :/ that's how you use to say, ? also, your comment, ...??

so far, i've won 25/30 Games= That's about a 83% winrate, ....Now ofc more testing is needed,

But calculate on the profits/ losses yourself, and see? what else should i prove? you win more than you lose,

When I take all of the spins and results from both of our tests, modify them to use the +100u / -300u target stoploss I get:

Total spins = 4497
Winrate = 85%
Gross Units = +4268u
Losses = -1794u

Net Profit = +2474u

For your all of your fallacy systems Iggy, I would assume it's the best performing. 

Likely because the trigger actually plays on something we've all seen, which is that a single dozen can go cold for long periods of time (resulting in a greater chance of a hit for these plays), and if a dozen gets hot and runs off 10 hits in say 15 spins, you win with this play method as well as you wind up in that hot dozen quickly.

Would these lofty results hold through endless spins? No of course not, it will ultimately return to EV. This is still a fallacy-based method, we're relying on nonsense that the wheel couldn't give two shits about in terms of triggers and combining it with the fraught-with-danger martingale progression, but as those things go, this is one of the better ones.

I could see it hit and running for a long period, maybe even long enough that when the successive losses come it doesn't really matter.

junscissorhands

I sincerely hope you guys have found a winner then. Iggy dedicates his whole life to roulette.

I think if there is a Guinness book record for amount of roulette systems created on a weekly or biweekly basis it would definitely go to Ignatus.
Don't be so naive.

ozon

Ok, we must know if we succeed thanks to the bet selection or progression.
Ignatus, are you familiar with the RX code?
Check something easier, choose np dozen 1, it will be our entire bet selection and try to use 1-1-2-2-4-4-8-8 stop progression.
We stop at the first win and play it in a circle
And you have to see how long this progression will last

Mako

Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 08, 03:39 PM 2018
I sincerely hope you guys have found a winner then.

It's not, but I think it can be like some of the better "double dozen" methods, where the hitrate is so high that your BR can last a long time, maybe even stay positive, before you ultimately get brought back down to break-even and abandon it.

Some people love the juice of playing, especially B&M, with the comps/free drinks/points/etc, and this can give them something to play that's better than whatever they're doing now, and buys them more time to find something else better.

junscissorhands

I know that Mako, I just don't want to disappoint or upset Iggy. It takes me 5 seconds to recognize a fallacy system. It's fun to play, yes, but the sad part is that he is not looking at the right places.

Years ago when he was fooling around more with TG or Mr. J inspired systems he was closer into finding a "hg" nowadays sadly, he is drifting away. Creating systems for the sake of creating them. But it's easy to say for me because once you understand the weakness of know the underlying truth then everything makes perfect sense.

Just like back in the day when people think the earth was flat until it was proven not to be.

Don't be so naive.

Mako

Quote from: junscissorhands on Aug 08, 04:13 PM 2018
I know that Mako, I just don't want to disappoint or upset Iggy. It takes me 5 seconds to recognize a fallacy system. It's fun to play, yes, but the sad part is that he is not looking at the right places.

Years ago when he was fooling around more with TG or Mr. J inspired systems he was closer into finding a "hg" nowadays sadly he is drifting away. Creating systems for the sake of creating them. But it's easy to say for me because once you understand the weakness of know the underlying truth then everything makes perfect sense.

Just like back in the day when people think the earth was flat until it was proven not to be.

I feel like one of his recent ones, "Hotzone 8", was the closest, one of the ones you're referring to as targeting the only weakness of the game. The same weakness that is David's foundation I'd assume.

Am I right:

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20404.0


junscissorhands

Bingo absolutely correct, I would say that system contains 20% or 1/5th of a HG. The key is to read and go through many many permanenzen on Wiesbaden, Hamburg etc. Go through all the old spins, or load them up on RX manually click them spin by spin and hopefully your brain has a click or eureka moment.

People say of course think I'm talking bullshit as past spins don't mean anything. But you need to look at the forest not just a tree.
Don't be so naive.

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