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Repeaters,progression,lots of numbers, profit YUP! AP, Computers NOPE!

Started by Nimo, Aug 12, 01:13 PM 2018

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Nimo

I wasn't going to post again but thought I'd drop off this nugget.  Original thanks goes to Winkel 's GUT which inspired Notto's KTF which this is using modified form of since repeaters happen 15x in spins 11-40  Thanks also to Ayk's 37 spin rolling tracker. Not many charts like this that I have seen. 

It is a repeater method.  It uses progression.  It uses many numbers per bet. It's profitable!  It doesn't require a roulette computer, it doesn't require a VB training, it doesn't require a wobbly wheel to track. 

It has everything going against it, repeaters, progression, many numbers played so I guess all you AP and math guys please don't look, this isn't for you.

It's profitable, that's all I have to say. Let's see an AP chart like this.




I will post method soon.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Mako

I remember this one I think, your Ancient Drinking Vessel? Always liked it and thought it had potential, haven't gotten to it yet on the list of things to pursue.

Cheers Nimo

Irish88

Good to see you posting again Nimo. You bring invaluable insight to the board. I look forward to your future posts with great interest. Keep up the great work.

Blood Angel

Quote from: Nimo on Aug 12, 01:13 PM 2018
I wasn't going to post again but thought I'd drop off this nugget.  Original thanks goes to Winkel 's GUT which inspired Notto's KTF which this is using modified form of since repeaters happen 15x in spins 11-40  Thanks also to Ayk's 37 spin rolling tracker. Not many charts like this that I have seen. 

It is a repeater method.  It uses progression.  It uses many numbers per bet. It's profitable!  It doesn't require a roulette computer, it doesn't require a VB training, it doesn't require a wobbly wheel to track. 

It has everything going against it, repeaters, progression, many numbers played so I guess all you AP and math guys please don't look, this isn't for you.

It's profitable, that's all I have to say. Let's see an AP chart like this.




I will post method soon.

Nice graph. I love repeaters so will be interesting to see your take on it.

BA

Nimo

Here is another chart that I did with spins from my casino, same results.




I asked Ayk to modify his tracker to go to a rolling 37 spin as once you get up to the 37 number point you are usually at around the 24 unique hit mark, it varies down to 18 and up to 28 but the average is still around 24.  So I thought why can't I use those numbers on a rolling basis and always have the freshest 37 numbers with the most recent unique hits. 

It is a repeater method as in you spin 37 times without betting filling up the tracker.  At spin 38 bet all the numbers that hit, so you are betting on a repeat happening.  Knowing that Notto has done countless of charts with spins between 11-40 you get 15 repeats happen, at around spin 37 you are around 11-13 repeats so there should be around a few left to hit within next few spins.  Betting all the numbers that hit, (usually 22-26), if it hits, add the number to the tracker and bet all those numbers that hit, if it doesn't hit then add the number to the tracker, bet all those numbers, but with a progression.  I use a rudimentary spreadsheet that I made for progressions, but you can do it manually or download one in the software section.  Most progressions aren't longer than 4 steps as you can see in the charts.

+1000 units in roughly 150 spins, with 37 units not even bet, that's roughly $8-9 per played spin profit. 

I could sell this but I won't.  If you do play it and profit, just donate money to a children's charity of your choice.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

RouletteGhost

Does this have anything to do with betting numbers that repeat in a 37 spin cycle?
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Mako

Quote from: Nimo on Aug 12, 04:21 PM 2018
It is a repeater method as in you spin 37 times without betting filling up the tracker.  At spin 38 bet all the numbers that hit, so you are betting on a repeat happening.  Knowing that Notto has done countless of charts with spins between 11-40 you get 15 repeats happen, at around spin 37 you are around 11-13 repeats so there should be around a few left to hit within next few spins.  Betting all the numbers that hit, (usually 22-26), if it hits, add the number to the tracker and bet all those numbers that hit, if it doesn't hit then add the number to the tracker, bet all those numbers, but with a progression.  I use a rudimentary spreadsheet that I made for progressions, but you can do it manually or download one in the software section.  Most progressions aren't longer than 4 steps as you can see in the charts.

Thanks Nimo, after drilling down into your first chart and thinking a bit I had figured this is what you were doing, have been running it this exact way the past two hours...has won every time.

Longest loss progression I've had in multiple 150 spin sessions so far: 4.  And the sessions don't need to be limited, I just chose that as a cutoff/reset for control reasons.  It can go and go and go and go, as long as you want thanks to Ayk's tracker, very easy.

The progression is simple to put into action as you mentioned, just choose one that suits your risk profile and go. Not sure how I'd keep up at B&M, but online play would be relatively easy.

Appreciate it, and thanks again to Ayk.

Bigbroben

I had tested this just too few times this winter, play nrs appearing in the last 37 spins, like you did.
Played it flat and it was conclusive until like 500u up then down to zero.

Worth investigating, indeed. Alembert?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Mako

Quote from: Bigbroben on Aug 12, 05:12 PM 2018
I had tested this just too few times this winter, play nrs appearing in the last 37 spins, like you did.
Played it flat and it was conclusive until like 500u up then down to zero.

Worth investigating, indeed. Alembert?

Yeah Ben after a few sessions I did the flat bet math and realized it wasn't worth it. The progression risk isn't a deal-breaker at all, you can cap it if you're uncomfortable, like doubling every time until you hit the fifth double up then resetting to the first level bet and continuing on.

The hitrate is high enough, roughly 70% based on the spins I've done (RX RNG, 00 wheel), that recovery after a worst-case level reset isn't the end of the world, no need to do high level acrobatics to try and get back where you were, or put up with the slower pace of the D'Alembert.

Nimo

If you have the bankroll, and your casino limits are high enough a certain 1-5-25-100 Turbo progression is one hell of a ride. 
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Chris555p

Nimo, Thanks for posting this great system. I have been testing it with live dealer, real casino from about 5 hrs.
In max 4 try there is always a win.

For players who have tested or playing this system in how many try generally do u have a win....?Thanks


Chris

RouletteGhost

Thanks Nimo

Very nice

I guess on American wheels I’d wait 38 spins.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Since this can often be around a 24 number bet we all know a progression on 24 numbers is steep and dangerous

What are you doing for progression/money management

Thanks.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Nimo

Quote from: Chris555p on Aug 14, 11:58 AM 2018
Nimo, Thanks for posting this great system. I have been testing it with live dealer, real casino from about 5 hrs.
In max 4 try there is always a win.

For players who have tested or playing this system in how many try generally do u have a win....?Thanks


Chris

Most I've hit is four steps, but you never know.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

Nimo

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Aug 14, 12:53 PM 2018
Since this can often be around a 24 number bet we all know a progression on 24 numbers is steep and dangerous

What are you doing for progression/money management

Thanks.

I use a spreadsheet that I enter the amount of numbers and the dollar amount and it tells me how much I need to bet for a profit.  I adjust it so that in each win I make a minimum of 10 units. 

I have reached four steps in close to 12000 spins never more, but you never know. 
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

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