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Started by Winner, Dec 05, 01:22 PM 2018

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Winner

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 12, 08:51 AM 2018
Is airball real roulette?
There is scatter so I’m thinking it is .

Let Me Win

I'm thinking it's not because the table limits are much higher than on the real wheels in Asian casinos I have visited.

There is no reason for this I can think of unless it's because they know they can safely fcuk you if needed.


Steve

Yes its real. It has a ball and wheel.

They usually have countermeasures. Generally auto wheels are harder to beat, some are easier.
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Roulettebeater

Steve, one of my student came today to me and showed me his way to predict visually ( without computer )where the ball will leave the scatter, I was impressed of his predictions, he had a 8 out 10 correct predictions.

The only issue is when the ball leaves the scatter or the rim, it starts to bounce chaotically  and sometimes It jumps too far up to 8 or 10 pockets!

Do you have a tip to workaround this issue ?
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Bebediktus3

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 03:52 PM 2018one of my student came today to me and showed me his way to predict visually ( without computer )where the ball will leave the scatter
What is - "leave scatter"? If that is ball stop, why then not simply this to write?
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Steve

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 03:52 PM 2018where the ball will leave the scatter

What does this mean? Leave the scatter?
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Roulettebeater

Quote from: Steve on Dec 12, 04:20 PM 2018
What does this mean? Leave the scatter?

I mean he predicted successfully where the ball exits the track
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Bebediktus3

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 04:24 PM 2018I mean he predicted successfully where the ball exits the track
But that is not hard if he will predict something about scattering what you wrote - that is really interesting... but... looks that you do not see the difference in scattering and ball track...  :)
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Dec 12, 04:16 PM 2018
What is - "leave scatter"? If that is ball stop, why then not simply this to write?

No that’s not what I meant !
I only wanted to say that he was able to predict the point on which the ball exits the track.

Having said that, you can imagine how advantageous Is his predictions, however the chaotic ball bouncing/jumping was a big issue
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

The General

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 04:24 PM 2018
I mean he predicted successfully where the ball exits the track

I suspect that you mean that he's predicting what number is below the ball when it strikes the ball deflector on the apron of the wheel at the end of the spin before it strikes the spinning rotor.


QuoteThe only issue is when the ball leaves the scatter or the rim, it starts to bounce chaotically  and sometimes It jumps too far up to 8 or 10 pockets!

Do you have a tip to workaround this issue ?

If it's consistently scattering, meaning bouncing eight or ten pockets, then that's fine.  It can even consistently bounce 3/4 of the wheel as long as it's rather consistently bouncing that far.  What you're looking for is the ability to predict this most common distance of this ball scatter.    The best way to really learn the scatter is to collect how far it bounces from your target deflectors over 300 spins scattered over three separate time periods if possible.  (Unless the scatter is blatantly obvious and predictable.) Ideally you'd like to see at least a five standard deviation spike for your target scatter section.  If you don't have that after X number of spins, then keep tracking the scatter until you have it.  Once you do that you'll have a much better idea as to how strong your play can be and when you should take breaks based on changes in scatter.  Also, different balls will often have slightly different drop profiles.
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Steve

How early in the spin did he predict?
How dominamt are the diamonds?

In many conditions you can have near 100% accuracy in predicting where the ball will fall from ball track, without a computer, with 90 degrees accuracy.
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Roulettebeater

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Dec 12, 04:33 PM 2018
But that is not hard if he will predict something about scattering what you wrote - that is really interesting... but... looks that you do not see the difference in scattering and ball track...  :)

I know what is ball scattering, the student didn’t dig deep into that, he has put efforts into predicting where the ball leaves the track and he was successful, next i need to collect data and plot them on graph to see the scattering and take the optimal focal point, but that is another chapter !
A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Roulettebeater

Quote from: The General on Dec 12, 04:36 PM 2018
I suspect that you mean that he's predicting what number is below the ball when it strikes the ball deflector on the apron of the wheel at the end of the spin before it strikes the spinning rotor.


If it's consistently scattering, meaning bouncing eight or ten pockets, then that's fine.  It can even consistently bounce 3/4 of the wheel as long as it's rather consistently bouncing that far.  What you're looking for is the ability to predict this most common distance of this ball scatter.    The best way to really learn the scatter is to collect how far it bounces from your target deflectors over 300 spins scattered over three separate time periods if possible.  (Unless the scatter is blatantly obvious and predictable.) Ideally you'd like to see at least a five standard deviation spike for your target scatter section.  If you don't have that after X number of spins, then keep tracking the scatter until you have it.  Once you do that you'll have a much better idea as to how strong your play can be and when you should take breaks based on changes in scatter.  Also, different balls will often have slightly different drop profiles.

General

Follow me again if you didn’t digest what I mentioned !

The student was able to predict where the ball has left the track !

In 10 trails he had 8 correct predictions.

Now all what happened after the ball left the track looked like chaotic !

The ball jumping was everytime different, the only one thing that it has attracted my attention was, the jumping of the ball was Proportional to the rotor speed, in other words, soft to mild rotation speed resulted in ball land in between 4 to 8 pockets, while strong rotation resulted in ball landing between 8 to 12 pockets.

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Roulettebeater

Quote from: Steve on Dec 12, 04:43 PM 2018
How early in the spin did he predict?
How dominamt are the diamonds?

In many conditions you can have near 100% accuracy in predicting where the ball will fall from ball track, without a computer, with 90 degrees accuracy.

Well, the predictions took place after 5 seconds from ball spinning.

I didn’t gather info about dominant diamonds but i was impressed of his strong visual prediction!

Although Ball bouncing is the second  complexity in the 1k miles’s journey!

A dollar won is twice as sweet as as a dollar earned

Steve

Quote from: Roulettebeater on Dec 12, 05:01 PM 2018I didn’t gather info about dominant diamonds but i was impressed of his strong visual prediction!

This would be the first thing I'd look at. If the ball hits 1 or 2 particular diamonds most of the time, then you could easily be 80% accurate with predicting where the balls from the ball track - even predicting before the ball was released.
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