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PLUSCOUP PROGRESSION

Started by VLS, Jun 12, 11:07 PM 2010

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VLS

The PLUSCOUP PROGRESSION is a winning or "up as you win" progression.
The first betsize is always 1 unit.

If this first bet wins, then the attack is terminated and again 1 unit is bet.

If the first bet loses, the betsize remains 1 unit up to the first win.

After the first hit with 1 unit the betsize is increased to 2 units.

As long as the balance is negative, after a win the betsize is increased by 1 unit.

This raise after a win is to be continued, until either a positive balance is achieved, or up to a specific relation between wins and losses.
Which of these two possibilities the user selects, depends on his personal preferences. One prefers to secure with small bankroll requirements a small win, the other one accepts a higher downswing if he can realize thereby a substantial win.

The PLUSCOUP PROGRESSION is a very shallow progression, with which the betsize rises only slowly.

In the following example on BLACK / RED we try to win 8 units.
For simplicity we bet only on RED:

Spielbank Hamburg, Table No.1, 2004-01-07
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With a balance of +9 the session is terminated. In 42 spins Red loses 23 times and wins only 19 times. However the result is quite impressive. The cautiuos player could have reduced the last bet of 3 units to 2 units in order to achieve the target gain of 8 units, herewith protecting his bankroll. Disadvantage: the smaller bankroll requirement reduces the profits.

Even with larger tensions between losses and wins the PLUSCOUP PROGRESSION still leads to remarkable profits. The bankroll requirements are much lower than for example with the Whittacker or the Labouchere progressions.

The PLUSCOUP PROGRESSION seems to be the only one of the well-known progressions, especially in the case, in which only a few plus spins are missing, for reaching a positive balance, with by far the smallest bankroll requirements.
In combination with a good betselection the PLUSCOUP PROGRESSION leads to very stable results.

Credits to: win-maxx
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F_LAT_INO

When we hit our first bet

R-W               1+are we continuing next bet
R                   2 UNITS/or still 1 unit cause 1+/

Or for instance on your 36 the.spin you bet 5 un.-won,and was 1 +
aren't we restarting with 1 un after any +/and also noticed after that win of
5 un.--you continued next bet same-5 un/shouldn't be a 6 un...?????/
Would appreciate some detailed explanation regarding this,as find it very
interesting.Thanks,Victor
ITMT---read it throughouly and got the unswer.
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Jordan

VLS after the spin No 21 when we are + instead of going back to 1 unit,we are adding more chips?


WHY????????????????????

Jordan

Oh NO....all ok Iwasn t looking at the overal profit!
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Thanks for the idea...it looks cool

F_LAT_INO

It's same after spin 36......but I reckon cause the balance isn't positive
at that stage.
Also noticed 3 wins in the row on spins-29,30,31,----couldn't we reset to 1 un.
after that,and still achieve our goal.
What am I traying to say here that am retesting/already tested method with 1-up
1-down/with pluscoup,and it shows much better results so far----but must note
am reseting to 1 unit after 3 wins in the row.Any further suggestions????
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CashGrowth

Great post Victor, I like this style of playing.
Best of luck,
CashGrowth.

Fripper

This is a very nice progression and it doesn't need a big bankroll. Thanks for this Victor!
All i'm doing is living my life.

Jordan

This is a nice progression I have to agree.
But we need a big BR.

The way that FLATINO sagested or any other modification it is a must.

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: Jordan on Jun 13, 12:40 PM 2010
This is a nice progression I have to agree.
But we need a big BR.

The way that FLATINO sagested or any other modification it is a must.



In fact it doesn't need large BR,dear Jordan,as I have re-tested more then 2000
actuals,from already tested method,and find out;
--The win is larger
--Need BR is smaller
--progression is much smaller

And again depends what and how you are playing with this approach.
It suits me fine so far.
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

Jordan

I tested this progression.
The results are AMAZING!

I did about 4 sessions of 100 spins and the profits are very high!(and the BR needed was very little)

the 5th session was a session from hell!

I was losing far more bets than the winning ones.
But look what happened!!!!(if we had a big BR we would be also winners in this hell session!!!)

IT is amazing!!!!!I was +30 and after the final win I was +60!!!!(and the down was about - 220 chips!)


Jordan

I have never seen something like it!I still can t belive what happened!!!!!
Keep in mind that this graph session is almost the most hell session that you can meet in a casino.(of course random is strainge and you can meet a worst 1,but the chances are very low)

In my opinion there are 2 ways to play this.

1)have a BR of 300 chips and don't  STOP ANYWERE until we are + in overal(like in the  graph)

2)have 2 -3 minibanks of lets say 40 chips each and every time 1 bank is OFF(lost) then play again with 1 chip.
and ofcourse have a winning target.

we MUST all be united to find the best solution!!!!  


Wally Gator

Pluscoup is an excellent way of playing with limited chips.

My thoughts are to apply this to FENDER1000's crossplay with the modification of waiting for 4 and playing for 4.  It would be a personal decision whether you'd begin immediately or wait for 'x' trigger(s).

I think Victor's Trillioneighbors strategy may work with it as well.  Victor?
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Jordan

We must not focus on the bet selection because in Roulette every bet is same!

we must focus on HOW to make the downs on the sessions less.
Because it is not wise to bet in real play 20-30 chips on a bet.

1 way is with the minibanks as I posted above...we must hear other ways also.

ps.Voctor this Topic is the most sirious topic I have ever seen in 3 years in any forum!
thank u

VLS

Quote from: Wally Gator on Jun 13, 01:59 PM 2010
I think Victor's Trillioneighbors strategy may work with it as well.  Victor?

Wally, for trillioneighbors I like my very conscious positive progression strictly +1 unit on a win / decrementing to the minimum unit to break even from highest point. Not really looking for a profit, just aiming to breaking even (profit is a bonus).

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VLS

Quote from: Jordan on Jun 13, 02:02 PM 2010
Victor this Topic is the most serious topic I have ever seen in 3 years in any forum!
thank you

Remember dear Jordan, this has been brought to light before and the credit belongs to win-maxx.

This is posted here in the hopes that some may make use of this progression for their own good.

You never know, maybe this is the missing piece for someone's final strategy!

Truly hope so.

Kind regards.
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