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Kitchen Martingale

Started by Kav, Sep 11, 08:10 PM 2019

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6th-sense

heres the automatic software from off here i think..just input numbers

6th-sense

for hi lo ,red black ,odd even..with active running bank

Joe

Obviously you can only get perfect balance with an even number of bets. Here's a probability table which shows the chance of winning (ie, an imbalance) for from 2 to 150 bets :

    2  :   50.00%
    4  :   62.50%
    6  :   68.75%
    8  :   72.66%
   10  :   75.39%
   12  :   77.44%
   14  :   79.05%
   16  :   80.36%
   18  :   81.45%
   20  :   82.38% -> Masaniello
   22  :   83.18%
   24  :   83.88%
   26  :   84.50%
   28  :   85.06%
   30  :   85.55%
   32  :   86.01%
   34  :   86.42%
   36  :   86.79%
   38  :   87.14%
   40  :   87.46%
   42  :   87.76%
   44  :   88.04%
   46  :   88.30%
   48  :   88.54%
   50  :   88.77%
   52  :   88.99%
   54  :   89.19%
   56  :   89.39%
   58  :   89.57%
   60  :   89.74%
   62  :   89.91%
   64  :   90.07%
   66  :   90.22%
   68  :   90.36%
   70  :   90.50%
   72  :   90.63%
   74  :   90.76%
   76  :   90.88%
   78  :   90.99%
   80  :   91.11%
   82  :   91.22%
   84  :   91.32%
   86  :   91.42%
   88  :   91.52%
   90  :   91.61%
   92  :   91.70%
   94  :   91.79%
   96  :   91.88%
   98  :   91.96%
  100  :   92.04%
  102  :   92.12%
  104  :   92.19%
  106  :   92.27%
  108  :   92.34%
  110  :   92.41%
  112  :   92.48%
  114  :   92.54%
  116  :   92.61%
  118  :   92.67%
  120  :   92.73%
  122  :   92.79%
  124  :   92.85%
  126  :   92.91%
  128  :   92.96%
  130  :   93.02%
  132  :   93.07%
  134  :   93.12%
  136  :   93.17%
  138  :   93.22%
  140  :   93.27%
  142  :   93.32%
  144  :   93.36%
  146  :   93.41%
  148  :   93.45%
  150  :   93.50%

So even with 150 bets there is still a 100 - 93.5 = 6.5% chance that you will lose (ie, 75 reds and 75 blacks). And then there's the zero which I've ignored; it's always the fly in the ointment.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Let Me Win

Is this better?

15  20  24  24  16
10  16  24  32  32
  4    8  16  32  64

Start from the first figure up on the left(15).
In case of W you go below,in case of L you go right.
Starting from 15,if W,next bet 10 or 20 if L and so on:the figure below if W,the figure at the right if L.
3 wins in a row(it happens):15 + 10 + 4= +29


3 wins at least in 7 spins :  + 29 units.
If you lose 5 spins in a row or 5 L and 2 W ,in 7 spins at the most: -99 units

Kav

Joe,

There is a question for you in the video comments:
Can i Know which software is used to create the masaniello.exe? visul basic , excel or what?

I would appreciate it if you went and answer it

Joe

Kav, if you want to link to my software please include a link to my website where viewers can download it, and remove the current link (or at least, give me explicit credit). At the moment it seems like you're taking the credit for creating MY software (in the comment section you say "there is a bonus near the end of the video"). This is exactly what I meant by my earlier comment that you have a habit of passing other's work off as your own.

I'm also not happy about you saying that  "This astonishing Italian roulette system win always!". I know you go on to say "Except for the rare event that there are exactly 10 Blacks and 10 Reds in 20 spins.", but that's misleading because that event is not rare.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Kav

I'm sorry you feel this way. I could have added a txt file with your link in the zip,.

...but since you keep accusing me unfairly and harshly about  "passing other's work off as my own"  with paranoid arguments about a widely known system that YOU pointed out and I never claimed was mine and a zip file with an app that has your site in the title and I asked for permission to use...

...then I prefer to remove your app completely from the zip.

I feel some prepossession here, but it is up to you to reconsider.

PS: the line you mention has exclusively SEO value, that's why I cancel it with following sentence.
PS 2: On a general side-note, maybe you have to understand the value of curation. For example what Google does is curate content. But let's not sidetrack the thread to this philosophical discussion.

ozon

Basic question.
Do you think Masaniello gives you a real edge?
Drawdown can be really big, but would it work in longrun?

Joe

Quote from: Kav on Sep 29, 05:27 AM 2019I'm sorry you feel this way. I could have added a txt file with your link in the zip,.

Well that's what I thought you were going to do. I'm quite happy for you to link to the software, it is free, after all. The issue I have is that no credit was given to me, the creator of it. And yes, my site url is included in the title, but most people would also assume that my site is affiliated or connected, or owned by x, which is something I don't want. All you had to do was include a text file which stated something like "You can download free software from roulettecoder.com for this system. The site is independent and not affiliated with x". Maybe I should have been more explicit about that when I gave you permission to use the software, but to be honest, I just assumed you would give credit; it's just common courtesy.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Kav

Quote from: ozon on Sep 29, 05:46 AM 2019
Basic question.
Do you think Masaniello gives you a real edge?
Drawdown can be really big, but would it work in longrun?

NO. Masaniello per ce (by itself) doesn't give you a real edge.

The most basic benefit of Masaniello and other good systems is in the realm of control and accountability. That you know what you are doing, what to expect and that your play has discipline and structure. Win or lose will greatly depend on your luck or personal permanence as I like to call it (and no it's not a word invented by me).

Masaniello though could be part of a successful strategy coupled by a thoughtful bet selection (I like to use Follow the Last outcome) and a secondary progression, meaning "what we do if we lose a Masaniello progression?" Do we keep the initial bet at same level or do we increase, or do we decrease etc.

Joe

Quote from: ozon on Sep 29, 05:46 AM 2019Do you think Masaniello gives you a real edge?

No of course not.

The chance to lose 100 units is 17.62% and the chance to win ~20 units is 82.38%, so the expectation is :

0.8238 * 20 - 0.1762 * 100 = -1.14

In order to make a profit the chance of win would need to be at least 83.5% (giving a losing rate of 16.6%), which would give 0.834 * 20 - 0.166 * 100 = +0.08

It is, however, an interesting and fun system to play.
Logic. It's always in the way.

ozon

As we are already talking about good MM.
What is your opinion about Labby?
We know this is one of the strongest progression.
Theoretically, it can withstand only  35% of hits of EC.

Kav

Labby is good. Period.
I like to believe that I have written the most complete guide to Labouchere on the web.

But Labby alone is not enough to give you an advantage.

Now imagine what would happen if you combined Masaniello as you main bet (consider the whole progression as one bet) and then combine it with labby on a higher level. Each win or Loss for the labby is a won or lost Masaniello progression... This is just a starting point.

ozon

I understand.
Use, for example, Labby only if you lose the session, this should give a very stable selection
An interesting idea would also be to use up and pull regression.
  e.g. if we earn 100 units, it will be our 1 unit.
The regression would look like 2-1-2-3-5

Let Me Win

Wow the expert has published the most comprehensive guide to both the La Partage rule and now the Labby on the Internet.

Hope it's better than your advice that La Partage roulette is rarely found ignoring that every single casino in the UK has this rule.

Going back to the suggestion of using multiple negative betting schemes...

You should not play like that, you are only losing more without gaining anything. If you flat bet 5 units bankroll to get 5 more (so your target is 10 units) with 1 unit bet size, then your probability of winning is only 43.2825%. It is much worse than 48.6486% if you bet five units on the even chance.


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