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Started by Mortagon, Mar 11, 03:46 AM 2020

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Joe

Logic. It's always in the way.

Steve

You dont know it yet joe, you're making a fool of yourself.

And you're mixing conspiracy fact with conspiracy nonsense.
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winforus

Joe, you are mixing up your typical "conspiracy theory nut head" with somebody who is conscious enough of what is going on and who has done a deep investigation. Many of the so called "conspiracy theory nut heads" are broke, and also live in fear - and clearly this is not something that categorizes Steve. You have to consider the fact that he is financially very well off and it's not like he is trying to make you believe that the earth is flat. If you are interested in the truth (over being "right" for ego reasons), then you should be open minded to the possibility that what Steve here is saying may be true.

Steve, I would appreciate it, if you could share any resources (weather it's books/videos, etc) on this topic, for those of us that want to do a deeper investigation into this.

Steve

Thanks, yes I have been studying and following it for a long time.

Exactly what part did you want resources on?
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winforus

Quote from: Steve on Mar 22, 07:59 PM 2020
Thanks, yes I have been studying and following it for a long time.

Exactly what part did you want resources on?

Resources that would give me a better understanding of the banking system, the elites financial goals, and how that ties into us heading to global digital currency.

There is a lot of information on the Internet - but not all of it is reputable/true and it can be tricky when it comes to sorting out truth vs a “flat earth” type of stuff.

Bigbroben

There is such a wide range of subjects considered ''conspiracies'' that are really easy to prove and accept.  Not every alternative theory is revolutionary.
Legends become history thanks to archeological diggings;
Secret groups are being exposed by insiders who disclose infos;
Greater understanding allows dots to connect.

Remember: history is written by the winner.  Truth is probably occulted, history gets biased, misleading if not totally invented.

I personally dove into the realm of alternative explanation thanks to my grand-mother's book shelf!  1st book: Atlantis; 2nd: Easter Island, you know, books from the 70s en vogue back in the days.  Anyway, whatever the book, the point is: reading it triggered a spark, lit a thirst for more knowledge.  Not because it felt like reading sci-fi novel, but rather because it explained better than conventional story.

So nowadays, I do not believe immediately whatever is being said on main stream medias.  I prefer searching for myself ( so no msm for me thanks).  And you know what?  Events in the world make so much sense, or better said, are so predictable, once the underlying reasons are known.  Known because of critical thinking, truth-seeking.  Think logically ( might have read this somewhere.... ::)

Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Bigbroben

Quote from: winforus on Mar 22, 08:25 PM 2020
Resources that would give me a better understanding of the banking system, the elites financial goals, and how that ties into us heading to global digital currency.

There is a lot of information on the Internet - but not all of it is reputable/true and it can be tricky when it comes to sorting out truth vs a “flat earth” type of stuff.

Wide range!  As in many others, you can have the short answer and a quick proof, or you can take the long answer down the rabbit hole and dig in many directions.
But to be honest: for some subjects, you might want to read books instead of checking on internet.  Although there are cloud-shovelers among authors, you can be more certain that if the guy has gotten a book out, he probably was serious about it and made an honest work researching and gathering sources.  Whereas on internet, it can be good or it can be just a good looking show.  Still, the longer holding alternate theories on the web are the ones that were presented already in books for years/decades.  And it's so much more fun to read a book before to go asleep than to watch a screen.

Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Steve

Quote from: winforus on Mar 22, 08:25 PM 2020Resources that would give me a better understanding of the banking system, the elites financial goals, and how that ties into us heading to global digital currency

Properly understanding it is like a month-long course.  There are lots of videos and resources, but don't expect them all to be 100% accurate. If you go to youtube and search "how money is created" you'll find videos like these:

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmJowhn3bs

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=rcJHk77bUGo

If you want to hear it from the horses mouth, see link:s://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Modern_Money_Mechanics.pdf

Basically banks make money from nothing. They fabricate most of the money they loan you.

Despite having the ability to make money from nothing, banks can go bust (on paper), like when their speculative investments fail. So then they can be bailed out, which is where the government (actually us tax-payers) bail out the banks. In numerous countries, it's now law. People here got angry about it, so now they changed the law to be called "bail in". What's the difference? Bail in means they can steal money directly from your account.

In Australia, the banks can now even steal part of your retirement fund.

A great resource for Australias is this channel:
link:s://:.youtube.com/channel/UCzwmB2wn8Slp3hko2Gpj2iA

It's not just Australia. It's all over the world there are similar draconian laws. The push is coming from the International Monetary Fund to pass these laws.

If you want to know more, start on youtube BUT there is a lot of crap too. Only believe what is backed up by credible information you can verify. For example, the PDF above is from the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago.

If you believe whatever you're told, without verification, you'll be easily misled.
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Steve

Here's part of it:

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=Ksw-arKvMPk

They've been pushing microchipping for a while. The latest attempt in the US for clearly rejected, for now.

This is a global thing. It's not for just one country. They'll push the agenda in whatever country they can.

It's not really about convenience. It's about total control. Some would say it's about reptilian aliens. I have no proof of that. Maybe it's true, maybe not. It's important to keep things down to Earth, focusing on what we can see and prove.

There are people who even say the Queen of England is a shapeshifting alien. Same case here. Until I see it for myself, I wont believe that. I'm not saying it is or isn't true. But where's the proof? I think there's enough evidence to support these elites deliberately spread crazy conspiracy crap to detract from the real conspiracies. This throws people like Joe off the track from real conspiracies.

I've been following this most of my life. Like everyone i'm still learning.

It's real. It's happening. It's all around us. It's not something that's going to happen eventually. It's happening right now.
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Bigbroben

Steve, seems you're into it quite a bit!  Good to see some ppl are able to think for themselves.

Tell me: ever heard of Q?  If so, what do you think?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Steve

These guys also have a good understanding of what's happening in Australia. Again it's not just Australia. It's going on everywhere. These changes come from the International Monetary Fund. The global financial system is GLOBAL.

link:s://citizensparty.org.au/anz-changes-deposit-tcs-would-facilitate-bail

Basically the Australian banks all changed their terms of service to allow them to screw us over, without any consequence to them. Why would they all make these changes to their terms of service? They know what's coming.
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Steve

Quote from: Bigbroben on Mar 22, 09:56 PM 2020Tell me: ever heard of Q?

I dont know much about Q. I think it's an underground community of people who are "in the know" of what's happening, in positions of power, and are opposed to NWO plan. It might be related to the sealed indictments initiated by Trump. Again I dont really know enough about it.

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Joe

Quote from: Steve on Mar 22, 05:21 PM 2020You dont know it yet joe, you're making a fool of yourself.

And you're mixing conspiracy fact with conspiracy nonsense.

So I'm 'making a fool of myself' for showing how to distinguish real conspiracies from false ones? People should use that checklist to make up their own minds, and not get lost down the conspiracy theory rabbit-hole. Several points on the list apply to the claims you're making, and you keep referring to 'they' without saying who 'they' are. It's all very vague and general; I haven't seen any hard evidence, just paranoia.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Steve

Yes you're making a fool of yourself. I'm not the one with problems here Joe. Youd best do your research before accusing me of being the slow one. Start with something simple: banking.

Dont make it personal. You've got a while to go. Dont put wanting to be right before the truth.
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