Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Steve]

If you have any big debts, look out.

I really think this bubble is going to burst soon. This is probably the noticeable start. Most people don't understand its by design.

[ati]

Thank god I have no debt, I paid off my mortgage last month.  But now I have less than a months pay on my account. 

I'm off to work in a few minutes, I'm curious to see if my company decides to let everyone stay home. The country is basically in lock down mode, everything is closed, yet we still have to go to the office where there are hundreds of people in the same open area, and almost everyone could work from home. Not that I want it too much, I'm much more efficient in the office.

[Steve]

Their goal is total control, so everyone will be affected even if you have no debt.

Ultimately i think eventually it will backfire on them, because people will become more self sufficient. They'd be aware of this risk for them.

[Joe]

And it is entirely possible it may be a man-made disease, not so much to kill lots of people, but more for financial reasons. If you think it's conspiracy nonsense, ask yourself are there people who dont care about others that much? And is it possible some of these people have the ability to make this happen?

Steve, yes it's conspiracy theory nonsense. Your argument that the virus was deliberately created because 'there are people who don't care about others and had the ability to make it happen' is a very poor one. Laughable, in fact. It's so generic that you could apply it to any bad things which happen in the world.

What specific evidence do you have that's it's true for this case? None. The best scientific evidence for the origin of the virus is that it comes from an animal, although they're not sure which one.

link:s://:.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00548-w

Why do so many people believe in conspiracy theories? Interesting article here.

One of the reasons why conspiracy theories spring up with such regularity is due to our desire to impose structure on the world and incredible ability to recognise patterns. Indeed, a recent study showed a correlation between an individual’s need for structure and tendency to believe in a conspiracy theory.

Take this sequence for example:

0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 1

Can you see a pattern? Quite possibly â€" and you aren’t alone. A quick twitter poll (replicating a much more rigourous study) suggested that 56% of people agree with you â€" even though the sequence was generated by me flipping a coin.

It explains why so many people on roulette forums like conspiracy theories, don't you think? They are always looking for patterns in past spins!

Unfortunately it's almost impossible to convince anyone who believes in a conspiracy theory that it's irrational. An attempt to show that there is no evidence for it is seen as 'suppression' or a cover-up, and evidence against it is seen as misinforming the public.

Their goal is total control

Who are 'they'? The illuminati? The Lizard people? Aliens? 

[ignatus]

Who are 'they'? The illuminati? The Lizard people? Aliens?

There are a small number of people who owns all central banks in the world. These people... idk really, what are their "plans"...... more money more power than they already got? They already own all the central banks in the world...ofc, thats not "enough" they want more? its insane?:S what kind of people is this idk?... no...

[Steve]

Joe, firstly i didnt say it was man made. It could be. I said at the very least, groups will try to exploit it. They already are.

Secondly, youre uneducated on this matter.  You're at the other end of the scale. You think the world has fairies and the government and banks are always honest. And surely bad people don't exist in high places. Banks printing money from nothing is a good thing, for our benefit, right??

Theres much more. Im not interested in debating this. You've got a bit to learn.

[Joe]

Secondly, youre uneducated on this matter.  You're at the other end of the scale. You think the world has fairies and the government and banks are always honest. And surely bad people don't exist in high places. Banks making money from nothing is as good thing, for our benefit, right??

No Steve, I don't think that governments and banks are always honest, but that's not the same as believing in conspiracy theories for which there is no evidence whatsoever. I repeat : where is the specific evidence that the virus was deliberately created?

You have no answer.

[Joe]

There are a small number of people who owns all central banks in the world. These people... idk really, what are their "plans"...... more money more power than they already got? They already own all the central banks in the world...ofc, thats not "enough" they want more? its insane?:S what kind of people is this idk?... no...

FYI, those who 'own' banks don't own all the money in them, lol.

[Steve]

And by the way, aliens exist.

Probably, reptillian aliens exist. And probably particular alien races are influencing our progress for their benefit.

So out there, right? Again you've got a bit to learn.

As for the illuminati, there are many secret societies. Some share agendas, some have conflicting interests.

I know there are bullshit theories without anything to back them up. And there are conspiracies that are real, with ample reasonable evidence.

Im not just a theorist joe.
Im well educated and balanced.

[Joe]

Im not interested in debating this.

I don't blame you, because there are no good arguments. I'm not naive and think that people in power are angels. Far from it, and I'm not saying that there are no conspiracies. However, belief in conspiracy theories is not based on evidence, but faith.

[Steve]

I repeat : where is the specific evidence that the virus was deliberately created?

I repeat, read what i wrote.

FYI, those who 'own' banks don't own all the money in them, lol

Fyi, banks create money from our deposits in a system called fractional reserve banking, so they make money from nothing.

[Joe]

And by the way, aliens exist.

Probably, reptillian aliens exist. And probably particular alien races are influencing our progress for their benefit.

So out there, right?

Yes. Whatever. If you like wearing a tinfoil hat, keep doing it. Whatever floats your boat.

[Steve]

 

I don't blame you, because there are no good arguments

Again joe, read what i wrote.

And about other conspiracies, me not bothering to explain it to you is much like an educated person not bothering to explain to newbies why roulette repeaters doesn't work. They newbies are just so far behind. Sorry Joe, when you know better you're in for the shock of your life.

[Joe]

I repeat, read what i wrote.

I did. All you did was repeat that there are bad people in power. That's not evidence that the virus was made deliberately, is it?

[Steve]

Yes. Whatever. If you like wearing a tinfoil hat, keep doing it. Whatever floats your boat.

That's the equivalent response of saying "we know there will be eventual repeats, so random is predictable". No idea. Sorry Joe. Really i am.

And now your comments are just getting ridiculous and defensive. Goods luck.