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## My interpretation

Started by CarpeDiem, Apr 22, 08:41 AM 2020

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#### CarpeDiem

You can find the original thread in here

Here is my interpretation of it:

Wait until a time key 3-6-9

Time keys
3: 3,12,21,30
6: 6,15,24,33
9: 9,18,27,36
(All time keys belong to the third dozen)

The order of appearance matters 3-6 or -9

Play figures 3-3;3-6;3-9
6-3;6-6;6-9
9-3;9-6;9-9

And here is how you play them:

3(NEW) -9(OLD). Red
BET those 12 numbers:
1-3-12-21-19-30
Plus 9-7-18-16-27-25

9(NEW) -3(OLD) Red
BET those 12 numbers:
9-7-18-16-27-25-36-34
Plus 12-21-19-30

6(NEW) -3(OLD) Black
BET those 12 numbers:
6-4-15-13-24-22-33-31
Plus 2-11-20-29

6(NEW) -9(OLD) Black
BET those 12 numbers:
6-4-15-13-24-22-33-31
Plus 8-17-26-35

3(NEW) -6(OLD). Black
BET those 12 numbers:
6-4-15-13-24-22-33-31
Plus 2-11-20-29

9(NEW) -6(OLD) Black
BET those 12 numbers:
6-4-15-13-24-22-33-31
Plus 8-17-26-35

Diagonals:
3(NEW) -3(OLD) Red+ - bet all RED numbers -18 numbers

9(NEW) -9(OLD) Red+- bet all RED numbers -18 numbers

6(NEW) -6(OLD) Black+ -bet 6,15,24,33
Plus 2,8,11,17,20,26,29,35- 12 numbers

Time key matrix:
3   6    9
3 R+ B    R
6 B   B+  B
9 R   B    R+

Betting opportunities:
4 red opportunities 2*12 + 2*18 = 60
5 black opportunities 4*12 +1*12=60

To transform the numbers bet into an EC bet:
1) for every black opportunity (Time key combinations: 3-6;9-6;6-3;and 6-6)
bet 1 unit on black
2) for every red opportunity
A)Time key combinations: 3-9;9-3
bet 1 unit on red
B) Time key combo 3-3 and 9-9
Bet 1.5 units on red

You can set up the unit amount as you require, but do note the red 3-3 and 9-9 figures are played with a 50% more in value chip.

Time key?

#### number25

Quote from: CarpeDiem on Apr 22, 08:41 AM 2020
You can find the original thread in here

Here is my interpretation of it:

Wait until a time key 3-6-9

Time keys
3: 3,12,21,30
6: 6,15,24,33
9: 9,18,27,36
(All time keys belong to the third dozen)

The order of appearance matters 3-6 or -9

Play figures 3-3;3-6;3-9
6-3;6-6;6-9
9-3;9-6;9-9

And here is how you play them:

3(NEW) -9(OLD). Red
BET those 12 numbers:
1-3-12-21-19-30
Plus 9-7-18-16-27-25

9(NEW) -3(OLD) Red
BET those 12 numbers:
9-7-18-16-27-25-36-34
Plus 12-21-19-30

6(NEW) -3(OLD) Black
BET those 12 numbers:
6-4-15-13-24-22-33-31
Plus 2-11-20-29

6(NEW) -9(OLD) Black
BET those 12 numbers:
6-4-15-13-24-22-33-31
Plus 8-17-26-35

3(NEW) -6(OLD). Black
BET those 12 numbers:
6-4-15-13-24-22-33-31
Plus 2-11-20-29

9(NEW) -6(OLD) Black
BET those 12 numbers:
6-4-15-13-24-22-33-31
Plus 8-17-26-35

Diagonals:
3(NEW) -3(OLD) Red+ - bet all RED numbers -18 numbers

9(NEW) -9(OLD) Red+- bet all RED numbers -18 numbers

6(NEW) -6(OLD) Black+ -bet 6,15,24,33
Plus 2,8,11,17,20,26,29,35- 12 numbers

Time key matrix:
3   6    9
3 R+ B    R
6 B   B+  B
9 R   B    R+

Betting opportunities:
4 red opportunities 2*12 + 2*18 = 60
5 black opportunities 4*12 +1*12=60

To transform the numbers bet into an EC bet:
1) for every black opportunity (Time key combinations: 3-6;9-6;6-3;and 6-6)
bet 1 unit on black
2) for every red opportunity
A)Time key combinations: 3-9;9-3
bet 1 unit on red
B) Time key combo 3-3 and 9-9
Bet 1.5 units on red

You can set up the unit amount as you require, but do note the red 3-3 and 9-9 figures are played with a 50% more in value chip.
You should put out some spins & then show your work.

#### 6th-sense

You mean timekeys in third column ?

#### CarpeDiem

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 23, 12:03 PM 2020
You mean timekeys in third column ?

All time keys belong to column 3, it was a typo
3,6,9,12,15,18,21,24,27,30,33,36

I think Compa was onto something but could not quite explain it
3 9 6 6 9 3
Actually, translates to
+ - + - + -

3 3 different polarities / different universes
6 6 different polarities / different universes
9 9 different polarities / different universes
3 6 same polarities / same universe
6 3 same polarities / same universe
3 9 different polarities / same universe
6 9 different polarities / same universe

Think of it in this terms and no others

MATTER
3-    6-
9+
0
9-
3+      6+
ANTIMATTER

0 is the pause, all goes to 0 and all is born from it.

Time key 3: 3,12,21,30
Time key 6: 6,15,24,33
Time key 9: 9,18,27,36

Let's take an example
You spin the wheel until you get Time key 3
Bet RED until Time keys 3 or 9 appear if 6 appears, continue betting red
Time key 6 appears
Continue betting RED
Time key 3 Appears
Continue betting RED
Time key 3 appears
Bet  BLACK
Time key 9 appears
Bet RED
Time key 9 appears
Bet Black
Time key 6 appears
Bet Red
Time key 3 appears
Bet RED
Time key 3 appears
Bet Black
Time key 0 appears
All bets off Wait until another time key appears (remember last Time key = 3)
Time key 3 appears
Bet RED

#### 6th-sense

love this stuff...combine with prime numbers..and composite numbers.....what would the interaction be as separate entities in relation with each other on  how they hit...
bit beyond this sorry just couldn,t help myself
the group numbers in column 3 are tesla numbers...only linked with a few prime numbers...

interesting stuff

#### duchobor

Hello CarpeDiem,

Let's take an example
You spin the wheel until you get Time key 3
Bet RED until Time keys 3 or 9 appear if 6 appears, continue betting red
Time key 6 appears
Continue betting RED  Shouldn't it be black? Because: 6(NEW) -3(OLD) Black
Time key 3 Appears
Continue betting RED Again: not black? This time 3(NEW) -6(OLD) Black
Time key 3 appears
Bet  BLACK And here... 3x3 combo shouldn't point to red? Red+ actually.
Time key 9 appears
Bet RED Yes
Time key 9 appears
Bet Black Why? 9x9 combo suggests Red+
Time key 6 appears
Bet Red Another one: 6(NEW) -9(OLD) Black
Time key 3 appears
Bet RED Not black? 3(NEW) -6(OLD) Black
Time key 3 appears
Bet Black Another 3x3 combination = Red+, no?
Time key 0 appears
All bets off Wait until another time key appears (remember last Time key = 3)
Time key 3 appears
Bet RED Indeed

Very interesting approach. Reminds me a bit of Numeris Titanus.

#### Nimo

I still use these combos with great success, except now I use a positive progression with a minimal interval count down.  Check out my old post Partner System RNG
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

#### duchobor

Thanks for the suggestion, Nimo.
Went through the topic. I like methods using number outputs obtained by the theosophical reduction. I see your main approach was/is to go with 'sleepers' - the last group left. I on the other hand prefer 'repeaters'.
Two ways:
1. Basic numerological method: After the repeat within one group you go for another one + an additional bet of the corresponding group of numbers (like in your Partner System).
2. Way better (and more successful) way: Go after repeat right away (in other words bet the last outcome). The whole group (4 numbers + 0 if you wish) for three spins, if no hit add another group (extra 4 numbers, same principle: bet the last outcome to repeat) for another 3 spins, and if no hit repeat the process for the last time. So the maximum is 12 numbers bet - 3 groups to repeat. With your "partners" (corresponding outputs) it would be: 8 -> 16 -> 24.
After 3 series of losses, start over. No progressions (although I guess it's a personal preference, one can try with something mild).
Pretty stable. Strangly works. Usually.
It's hard to resist the impression that it's naturally a gambler's fallacy, but I have a soft spot for all kinds of mysterious/mystical systems and it's hard for me to completely remove them from my repertoire

Cheers,
MJ

#### Nimo

Even though it appears as I am playing sleepers, it is actually a repeater system as I play the sleepers on a rolling basis, betting them heavier as they become hot and become the lead which always happens.  As for the negativity, I take it with a grain of salt.  I have nothing to prove to anyone, I know what works for me.

The NHL thing, I had software designed for that which I set to make a certain profit every month and NHL season.  Bought my wife a nice baby blue Taycan last year with my winnings.
If all the world is a stage, who is left to be the audience?

#### duchobor

Okay, I see. I'll dive into it deeper. Cheers.

Congrats, one should keep his lady happy.
As for NHL, I bet Avalanche to win and hope for the best.

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