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Roulette has no memory but statistics have different opinion!

Started by huskerdu, Apr 25, 05:26 AM 2020

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huskerdu

Let’s say that you have written a random 15-string in a paper:
B R R B B R R R B R B B B R R R B R B B
You say that this specific string will not come out from the roulette the specific day, the specific time you will sit on the table.
The possibilities for this specific string to come out are 1 /   32.768. or 0,003%
So, you want , when you sit on the table, to start betting using Martingale, exactly the opposite colors in order not to come. But for the 15-step Martingale is:
1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512-1024-2048-4096-8192-16384.
Of course it is impossible to play this betting because you don’t want to risk thousands of units in order to win one unit, even if it is one to 32,768 chances to lose. And of course, the table limits don’t allow you to do this.
But let’s say that you have this bankroll and there is no limit on the table.
So you wrote this string and when you came to the table instead of immediately start betting, you are staring at  a nice woman, order a drink,  talk to somebody beside you, and after some minutes you see at the matrix board  that the last 10 colors that have been spun out are exactly the first 10 colors as you wrote them on the paper, so it is as if you had started to bet some minutes ago and you already had 10 virtual loses.
You think that you  are lucky because it is not necessary to play a 15-step Martingale but a 5-step Martingale for the rest 5 colors of your string.
So instead of risk 32.768 units, you risk 1-2-4-8-16 = 32 units in order to win the 15-string.
Question:
How many chances do you have to lose in  the next 5 spins ?
1/ 32.768 or 1/16  ?
Mathematically the chances are 1/16, because whatever outcome it was at the previous spins, mathematics say that at the next 5 spins you have a chance of 1/16. because roulette has no memory, the outcomes are independent so what's happened in a previous cycle has no effect on what will happen in the next.
But you also think that before sitting on the table, you wrote a 15 string not to come and when you sit you had 10 virtual loses. So are you so unlucky that you will lose a string with a 1/32,768 chances to lose? If there is a possibility that this statement is right, then I have come up with a new system, which I can elaborate in my new post.
Thanks for the contribution and your priceless comments.


6th-sense

Quote from: precogmiles on Apr 26, 04:50 AM 2020
It's not impossible it happened just the other day.

Lol 😂 show me on this pic after 18 spins what comes next..impossible with a repeat or a pair..yet you said it happened

6th-sense

use in conjunction with wheel layout same numbers for the more advanced look..

gamblers fallacy i suppose

precogmiles

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 26, 05:31 AM 2020
Lol 😂 show me on this pic after 18 spins what comes next..impossible with a repeat or a pair..yet you said it happened

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6th-sense


Joe

Quote from: huskerdu on Apr 26, 05:10 AM 2020after some minutes you see at the matrix board  that the last 10 colors that have been spun out are exactly the first 10 colors as you wrote them on the paper, so it is as if you had started to bet some minutes ago and you already had 10 virtual loses.
You think that you  are lucky because it is not necessary to play a 15-step Martingale but a 5-step Martingale for the rest 5 colors of your string.
So instead of risk 32.768 units, you risk 1-2-4-8-16 = 32 units in order to win the 15-string.
Question:
How many chances do you have to lose in  the next 5 spins ?
1/ 32.768 or 1/16  ?
Mathematically the chances are 1/16, because whatever outcome it was at the previous spins, mathematics say that at the next 5 spins you have a chance of 1/16. because roulette has no memory, the outcomes are independent so what's happened in a previous cycle has no effect on what will happen in the next.
But you also think that before sitting on the table, you wrote a 15 string not to come and when you sit you had 10 virtual loses. So are you so unlucky that you will lose a string with a 1/32,768 chances to lose? If there is a possibility that this statement is right,

No, the statement is wrong. Because past spins don't matter, it's irrelevant that you observed the first 10 outcomes of your pattern, so the chance of losing all of the next 5 bets is one in 32, same as it would be for any other pattern. Suppose the guy sitting next to you was looking for a different pattern, but decides to copy your bets for the next 5 spins. Does that mean his chance winning at least one of the next 5 bets is lower than yours?

Logic. It's always in the way.

precogmiles


Kav

6th-sense

Nice tracker, who has done it?
What do the  T W under dozens etc. mean? It looks rather confusing with all the colors on the right side table...

cht

After so many years, people are still arguing about future spins are independent of past spins, gamblers fallacy, wrong testing, not enough spins, ect,ect.... :xd: :xd: :xd:

Another simple 37spins FLATBET game winner.
It's so simple 18 numbers plus zero flatbet.
I must be so damn lucky to pull off 2 easy winners in 2 tries.
Oh yeah, rs spins are faulty, I cherrypicked screenshot only winning sessions, and so on and on.....
Are you guys not tired ?
I'll pay a visit next year see if things have changed in here.
Same ole same ole.

cht

Quote from: cht on Apr 26, 09:36 AM 2020
After so many years, people are still arguing about future spins are independent of past spins, gamblers fallacy, wrong testing, not enough spins, ect,ect.... :xd: :xd: :xd:

Another simple 37spins FLATBET game winner.
It's so simple 18 numbers plus zero flatbet.
I must be so damn lucky to pull off 2 easy winners in 2 tries.
Oh yeah, rs spins are faulty, I cherrypicked screenshot only winning sessions, and so on and on.....
Are you guys not tired ?
I'll pay a visit next year see if things have changed in here.
Same ole same ole.
Just to explain the game a little.

The reason why I waited for 37spins b4 start bet is for the prng to reveal the history numbers.
The same happens with a real wheel.

The bet is based on history numbers generated from the prng.
A bet that's premised on that future numbers is DEPENDENT on past numbers.
GAMBLERS FALLACY !

and, it works everytime. :xd: :xd: :xd:

Joe

Yes cht, your graph of 37 bets has convinced me. I've been wrong about gambler's fallacy and independent spins all these years and feel such a fool now you've proved that gambler's fallacy is itself a fallacy.  ::)

Logic. It's always in the way.

6th-sense

Quote from: Kav on Apr 26, 08:19 AM 2020
6th-sense

Nice tracker, who has done it?
What do the  T W under dozens etc. mean? It looks rather confusing with all the colors on the right side table...

it all started right here...
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20621.0

the T and W refers to my own personal tracker ie the T is table layout the W is wheel layout in order as it would be in the felt form...look at attached pic for reference.. the colours are set to reference spin number place for easy visual reference

gizmotron2

Quote from: Joe on Apr 26, 02:33 AM 2020
Giz, no offense, but you're full of hot air. Why not stop the blather and show us how great your system is on MPR? Actions and results speak louder than words.

What the heck (****) is MPR?
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

swanson

No one should play roulette unless they want to willingly hand over their money.

gizmotron2

so there is something here called MPR but I don't see any links to it.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

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