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#### Richard Meisel

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##### Isn't it strange?
Jun 08, 10:17 PM 2020
Just a little humor for these days.
Isn’t it strange? You have \$20 and you bet \$20 on the 1st Dozen:
W12  L26
Win 12 x20 = 240
Lose 26 x-20 = -520
Total = -280

What if you bet the \$20 on 2 Dozens?
10 on 1st Dozen, 10 on 2nd Dozen
W24  L14
Win 24 x10 = 240
Lose 14 x-20 = -280
Total = -40

And what if you bet \$20 on 3 Dozens! What?
1st Dozen = 12 x10 = 120
2nd Dozen = 12 x-5 = -60
3rd Dozen = 12 x-5 = -60
Loss on 0 & 00 = 2 x-20 = -40
Total = -20

You actually lose less betting on all 3 Dozens or all 3 Columns! Now I don’t bet this way and I don’t recommend this bet but I’ve never found on any betting forum or on the internet anyone mentioning this bet, except Saliu mentions it in passing. But isn’t it strange?

#### Bigbroben

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 09, 12:17 AM 2020

First example should give 12x40 since payout is 2:1.  With a total of -40.

Third example has 10 on 1st doz and 5 on both 2 and 3?  If so, results are wrong.
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#### Taotie

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 09, 04:47 AM 2020
Isn't it strange, that I just wasted 3 minutes reading and replying to this nonsense.

#### Bigbroben

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 09, 07:48 AM 2020
Isn't it strange, that I just wasted 3 minutes reading and replying to this nonsense.

Not strange: you were probably hoping for an anomaly that would lead to a HG and put you on track to become a filthy-rich king of the world.

Deceptive.
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#### Richard Meisel

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 09, 02:28 PM 2020

First example should give 12x40 since payout is 2:1.  With a total of -40.

Third example has 10 on 1st doz and 5 on both 2 and 3?  If so, results are wrong.
Yes, correction: 20 on 1st Dozen
W12  L26
Win 12 x40 = 480
Lose 26 x-20 = -520
Total = -40

10 on 1st Dozen, 10 on 2nd Dozen
W24  L14
Win 24 x10 = 240
Lose 14 x-20 = -280
Total = -40

10 on 1st Dozen, 5 on 2nd Dozen, 5 on 3rd Dozen
W36  L2
Win on 1st Dozen = 12 x10 = 120
Win on 2nd Dozen = 12 x-5 = -60
Win on 3rd Dozen = 12 x-5 = -60
Loss on 0 & 00 = 2 x-20 = -40
Total = -20

Betting \$20 on the 1st Dozen will lose \$40 after 38 Spins. Betting \$20 (\$10 on 1st Dozen and \$10 on 2nd Dozen) will lose \$40 after 38 Spins. But Betting \$20 (\$10 on 1st Dozen and \$5 on 2nd Dozen and \$5 on 3rd Dozen) will only lose \$20 after 38 Spins. Bad Bet. Whoever thought of Betting on all 3 Dozens at once or all 3 Columns at once? Saliu mentions it. But, still, isn't it strange? Some of you aren't very nice. It took a long time for me to be a nice guy.

#### plolp

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 10, 01:31 AM 2020

What is strange is that you take a particular case to make it general

#### gizmotron2

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 10, 11:47 AM 2020
What is strange is that you take a particular case to make it general
Been watching your play at R-sim. Very interesting stuff. Do you think you have winning all figured out?

#### Moxy

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 10, 12:28 PM 2020
Isn't it strange, that I just wasted 3 minutes reading and replying to this nonsense.

Meh.  I've seen stranger things.

I'll be here all week.

#### plolp

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 10, 12:47 PM 2020

@ Gizmotron :

maybe not ... My last 21 games are all won by equal weight, in that I am happy.
then i improve this, for now i don't know.

#### Richard Meisel

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##### Re: Isn't it strange?
Jun 11, 10:58 AM 2020
Isn't it strange, that I just wasted 3 minutes reading and replying to this nonsense.
Isn't it strange?
AMERICAN WHEEL
N   =   log(1 -DC)/log(1 -p)   When DC = 2/3 (66.6%) and   p = 1/38
log(1 -DC)   =   log(1 -2/3)   =   log(1 - .66666)   =   log(.33334)   =   -0.4771
log(1 -p)   =   log(1 -1/38)   =   log(1 - .02631)   =   log(.97369)   =   -0.0115
N   =   -.47711/-.011579   =   41.2   =   42

EUROPEAN WHEEL
N   =   log(1 -DC)/log(1 -p)   When DC = 2/3 (66.6%) and   p = 1/37
log(1 -DC)   =   log(1 -2/3)   =   log(1 - .66666)   =   log(.33334)   =   -0.47711
log(1 -p)   =   log(1 -1/37)   =   log(1 - .027027)   =   log(.97297)   =   -0.01189
N   =   -.47711/-.011899   =   40.09   =   40