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The 5 by 10 win strategy

Started by Maate, Jun 29, 02:11 PM 2020

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Maate

Before I start, this may look like Margintale, but there are 3 key differences:

- The first is that while ten losses in Margintale loses 1024 of your units, this method has wins along the way to the end of your sequence. That means even if you lose all ten of these sequences, you might even have more than you started with.

-The second is that the worse you are doing, the more you actually make in each sequence (this will be explained during)

-The third is that this is an acceleration bet, meaning if your profit is 10% of what you started with, all your original bets in the sequence are now 110% times what they were at the start.


So, here we go, the 5 for 10 Margintale.

We place down 5 units, (20c), each covering six numbers. I cover all except the first (1 2 3) and the last (34 35 36).

Like with all Margintale, we double after a loss. But because we are covering much more of the board than usual, we count a win as 5 wins in a row.

If we only win three and then experience a loss, we double again until we get 5 wins in a row.

Regular Margintale doesn't have wins along the way, but this one certainly does. You are covering roughly 5/6ths of the board, so you are very very likely to win a few at each level until you win 5 in a row. You are gaining the original 5 units you were aiming for, but each win along the way add to this dramatically.

For instance, you lose on your 5x 20c bet. So you bet 40c, winning two, and then you lose again. So now you bet 80c on each. You win three, then you lose. So you bet $1.60 on each. You win four and then lose. You then bet $3.20 and you win all 5.

This looks like:
(20c X 5)
L =-$1
(40c X 5) WWL
L=-$2
W=+$0.8
(80c X 5) WWWL
L=-$4
W= +$2.40
($1.60 X 5) WWWWL
L =-$8
W=+$6.40
($3.20 X 5) WWWWW
W=+$16

So the losses are -15$
The profits are $25.6

It's the only Margintale where your wins can actually nearly double your losses.

The worse you do and the further you get before you win 5 in a row, the more profit you make from these wins along the way.

Each win in your first recovery bracket earns 40c
80c
1.60
3.20
6.40
12.80
25.60
51.20
102.40

You could start with your 1024 units, battle out until about the 6th tier and end up with maybe 1200 units. This is a Margintale that gives random returns, and even if it loses 10x in a row, you still have what you earned during that last grind in your pocket.

This requires a bankroll of $1024.

Once your bankroll reaches $1536, you can now bet in 30c increments instead of 20c. This means your profits will be 50% faster than before, meaning you will reach the stage where you can bet 40c instead of 30 much faster than it took you to get from 20c to 30c. Every $512 earned is quicker than the last, and thus has the acceleration effect.


It's just a bit of a hobby, tell me what you think.

Richard Meisel

Quote from: Maate on Jun 29, 02:11 PM 2020
Before I start, this may look like Margintale, but there are 3 key differences:

- The first is that while ten losses in Margintale loses 1024 of your units, this method has wins along the way to the end of your sequence. That means even if you lose all ten of these sequences, you might even have more than you started with.

-The second is that the worse you are doing, the more you actually make in each sequence (this will be explained during)

-The third is that this is an acceleration bet, meaning if your profit is 10% of what you started with, all your original bets in the sequence are now 110% times what they were at the start.


So, here we go, the 5 for 10 Margintale.

We place down 5 units, (20c), each covering six numbers. I cover all except the first (1 2 3) and the last (34 35 36).

Like with all Margintale, we double after a loss. But because we are covering much more of the board than usual, we count a win as 5 wins in a row.

If we only win three and then experience a loss, we double again until we get 5 wins in a row.

Regular Margintale doesn't have wins along the way, but this one certainly does. You are covering roughly 5/6ths of the board, so you are very very likely to win a few at each level until you win 5 in a row. You are gaining the original 5 units you were aiming for, but each win along the way add to this dramatically.

For instance, you lose on your 5x 20c bet. So you bet 40c, winning two, and then you lose again. So now you bet 80c on each. You win three, then you lose. So you bet $1.60 on each. You win four and then lose. You then bet $3.20 and you win all 5.

This looks like:
(20c X 5)
L =-$1
(40c X 5) WWL
L=-$2
W=+$0.8
(80c X 5) WWWL
L=-$4
W= +$2.40
($1.60 X 5) WWWWL
L =-$8
W=+$6.40
($3.20 X 5) WWWWW
W=+$16

So the losses are -15$
The profits are $25.6

It's the only Margintale where your wins can actually nearly double your losses.

The worse you do and the further you get before you win 5 in a row, the more profit you make from these wins along the way.

Each win in your first recovery bracket earns 40c
80c
1.60
3.20
6.40
12.80
25.60
51.20
102.40

You could start with your 1024 units, battle out until about the 6th tier and end up with maybe 1200 units. This is a Margintale that gives random returns, and even if it loses 10x in a row, you still have what you earned during that last grind in your pocket.

This requires a bankroll of $1024.

Once your bankroll reaches $1536, you can now bet in 30c increments instead of 20c. This means your profits will be 50% faster than before, meaning you will reach the stage where you can bet 40c instead of 30 much faster than it took you to get from 20c to 30c. Every $512 earned is quicker than the last, and thus has the acceleration effect.


It's just a bit of a hobby, tell me what you think.
You could stop on the 3rd W in (80c X 5) WWWL for a plus $.20
You could stop on the 3rd W in ($1.60 X 5) WWWWL for a plus $1.00
You could stop on the 4th W in ($1.60 X 5) WWWWL for a plus $2.60
I think I’d prefer stopping on a plus. Nice idea.

Maate

I know. That's why it's players choice. That what I meant when I stated your wins can nearly double your losses. But if you are playing the bet acceleration method, then you would continue.

The example I gave was just random to show how wins during stack up. You are correct that you could stop, I find that I stop if I am ahead at about the 6th 7th level if I am playing it safe.

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts mate. I can tell you would be the type of person to actually leave while you are ahead at a casino

Maate

The reason behind acceleration betting, is that:
The first 512$ you earn allows you to bet 30c more. You just earned 50% of what you started with.

The next 10c raise, you only have to earn 33% of your start amount.

The next 10c, is 25%
The next is 20%

Until the time it took you to earn the first 512$ is now the time it takes you to earn 2048$.

If your bankroll has increased this much I would stop, but the more you play, the faster you earn.

That is why it is all up to the player. But if you are week ahead of when you started and you lose the ten cycles, the wins along the way will be much more than they were originally so you could still come out on top.

Please feel free to comment, I see people reading and I would like to know their thoughts

Richard Meisel

What you are playing is a Modified Martingale progression for 5 consecutive Wins. Very dangerous. Not many Bets have 5 consecutive Wins. And many Bets have 10 or more consecutive Losses.

Maate

But by covering nearly all of the board you are allowing a roughly 50/50 chance each tier that you will win 5 in a row. It has similar odds to betting on a colour for just one win. So as Margintale only wins you a unit, this one can win more along the way as it is likely for you to experience a fair amount of wins at each stage.

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