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#### DoctorSudoku

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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 20, 07:36 PM 2018
Here's a live shoe, Dublinbet.
1 PPT  TBP   TPP
2 TPB  BBB  BBB
3 BBP  BPB  PBP

4 PBP  TPP  PPB
5 TBB  PPP  PBB
6 BPP  PTB  BBP

7 PBT  PTP  BBB
8 TBT  PBB  PBB
9  BPP PTB  PBP

10 BTB  PBP   BBB
11 TTP  PBP    BPP
12 BPP  PPB   BBB

Amazingly this would get + 49 if you bet vertically including the Ties. Horizontally +39 including the ties. But with a progression like RG did vertically would give -3. I'm little lost how you count it horizontally with progression. Guess I'm little tired. Can you count it RG?

Boyd,
I just want to get one thing clarified.

Did you fill in the horizontal rows exactly in the sequence that the B/P/T decisions came out?

So, for instance, were the first nine decisions for this shoe: PPT TBP TPP?

Thanks.
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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 20, 07:37 PM 2018
Little busy tonight. But was also going to ask him in which direction he wrote the results as they came l, as that is confusing

I write left to right in rows of 3
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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 20, 07:39 PM 2018
Little busy tonight. But was also going to ask him in which direction he wrote the results as they came l, as that is confusing

I write left to right in rows of 3

Yes, there were too many Ts at the beginning -- that is why I want Boyd to clarify that point.
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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 21, 01:59 AM 2018

Boyd,
I just want to get one thing clarified.

Did you fill in the horizontal rows exactly in the sequence that the B/P/T decisions came out?

So, for instance, were the first nine decisions for this shoe: PPT TBP TPP?

Thanks.

Yes, it is written from left to right just as RG proposal. There were many ties in that shoe.Maybe a rare event? Next short I did didn't show that many ties. I  will post the result later today.

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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 21, 04:19 AM 2018
Here is the second shoe:
1 TBB  BPP  PBP
2 TBB  PPB PPB
3 PPB  TPT  PBT

4 PBP  BPB  BPP
5 BBB  BBP  PPB
6 PBB  BPP  TTB

7 PPP  PBP  BBB
8 BPB  BPB  PPP
9 PPB  BPB  PPB

10 PPB  BPT  TBT
11 PPP  PPB  BPB
12 TPP  PBP  BBP

Flatbetting and progression this didn't result in plus. Both vertically and horizontally. Maybe if you can catch the ties the result would be good?

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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 21, 04:57 AM 2018
Playing the ties in 3 different ways: Tie followed by a tie, vertically direct and every third would be in test 1, +3, +12 and +34, total + 49. Second test +7,0, -7, total 0.

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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 21, 11:04 PM 2018

Playing the ties in 3 different ways: Tie followed by a tie, vertically direct and every third would be in test 1, +3, +12 and +34, total + 49. Second test +7,0, -7, total 0.

If you have some time, can you please expound on the above highlighted part of the quote? '

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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 22, 04:46 AM 2018

If you have some time, can you please expound on the above highlighted part of the quote? '

Thanks.

Sure. You bet only on ties. I will give an example. X =bets

PPT   XBP TXB
BBX   PPP XBP
BBB   BBP BBB

BBX   BBB XBB

Not always you see many ties happen, but this can be good flatbetting.

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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 23, 04:12 AM 2018
Sure. You bet only on ties. I will give an example. X =bets

PPT   XBP TXB
BBX   PPP XBP
BBB   BBP BBB

BBX   BBB XBB

Not always you see many ties happen, but this can be good flatbetting.

Since you are interested in targeting the ties, you can try the following method that I mentioned on another thread:

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##### Re: baccarat test
Apr 23, 02:25 PM 2018

Since you are interested in targeting the ties, you can try the following method that I mentioned on another thread:

Thank you. Well, after thinking about it. I decided to stick with RG method. Ties can be very different, sometimes a lot of them but sometimes less. So I will play horizontaly and take the first win. Wonder how's it going for RG?

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##### Re: baccarat test
Feb 03, 08:46 AM 2021
I just stumbled upon this topic.  Has anyone tried ignoring the tie?  I've charted about a dozen shoes and had good results (small sample, I know).

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##### Re: baccarat test
Feb 03, 10:13 AM 2021
If you pick a corner bet with roulette you have 8 to 1 and same with the TIe for baccarat ...
You have a 50% chance to hit a Tie with six attempts, anything beyond that is chasing.

This is common knowledge and I would put a plus + sign when I get a tie within six attempts and start a new count with six attempt cycle.
If the Tie hit at the sixth attempts I would put a = equal sign and each time there is no ties within six attempts cycle you would put a minus sign - and count as one cycles with no hits.

This way you get a clear and nice view of how the tie behaves, you get to see the true variance and nature behind the random universe.

And you can use it as mention above or add some other concepts likes series of ties and single ties.
To increase the likelihood with match and probability calculation with some parts of Marigny De Grilleua.

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##### Re: baccarat test
Feb 03, 10:46 AM 2021
If you pick a corner bet with roulette you have 8 to 1 and same with the TIe for baccarat ...
You have a 50% chance to hit a Tie with six attempts, anything beyond that is chasing.

This is common knowledge and I would put a plus + sign when I get a tie within six attempts and start a new count with six attempt cycle.
If the Tie hit at the sixth attempts I would put a = equal sign and each time there is no ties within six attempts cycle you would put a minus sign - and count as one cycles with no hits.

This way you get a clear and nice view of how the tie behaves, you get to see the true variance and nature behind the random universe.

And you can use it as mention above or add some other concepts likes series of ties and single ties.
To increase the likelihood with match and probability calculation with some parts of Marigny De Grilleua.

Cheers

Ego,

I was thinking more along the lines of the original post with the matrix.  If a tie showed up in the sequence to just ignore it.  For instance:

B B P
P B P
B T B

Ignore the tie and make the Banker your 8th number in the grid.

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##### Re: baccarat test
May 09, 02:15 AM 2021
I just stumbled on this post myself and I was looking for some clarification as well. Not sure if it is still being supported with comments or not though

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##### Re: baccarat test
May 09, 02:28 AM 2021
This is what RG was saying are his instructions, and I get some of them but not all of them.

- 3 wide “matrix”
I get this. I record the results left to right for three decisions. Then I start on the line below doing the same thing.

- played vertically (essentially same as decision 9 back)
So after I have a 3 x 3 matrix because of 9 decisions now I go back to that SAME 3x3 matrix and I bet those results vertically downward? If my results were...

PBP
BBB
BPB

Now that I have the previous 9 results my next three bets will be P-B-P because the first vertical column has that sequence? Then I move over to the second column and bet B-B-P?

- playing for a repeat
I do not understand this comment. Do you mean that you write the results horizontally and you want to see a repeat vertically?

- 1 2 4 progression, never more.
I understand this part.

- each column is its own game and own progression
Do I ONLY bet three bets in the first column. Then move over to the second column in the first 9 results, and then to the thrid?
Or am I recording lets say 63 results (7 of the 3x3 matrix which is 7 x9 = 63) then I bet straight down that whole column

- a game is 3 decisions
Does this mean that if you win three hands in a row you get up and walk from the table or if the three decisions are the progression 1,2,4
you get up and leave that table?
- after a win STOP in that column we don’t play every hand. stop on a win in the 1 2 4 prog or take the 1 2 4 - 7 unit loss

- if during the 1 2 4 prog a tie shows up, stay at same unit don’t progress as it is a push.
I understand this part