Beating roulette with math..

[GLC]

I'm happy to say that I couldn't wait so I gave Session 7 a go because I realized that it doesn't take that long to test it.

Failed big time.  Had to quit when I reach -1000 units.

Tried it with a couple of max bets and both ways tanked.

I'm getting backed into a corner and am just going to have to start testing this thing with you guys so I can see if I really understand it.

I'm a little confused when you say that if you lose 2 in a row, you add 2 zeros along with the 2 numbers that you lost. 

Every time I read through the topic again I understand a little better.

I have to say that even though it can take 2 or 3 hundred spins to recover from a bad stretch, the fact that it seems to recover within a set boundary is encouraging.

If we reach a point where we can definitely say that this should win at least 1 unit every time you sit down to play even if it takes 4 or 5 hours to finally do it and the maximum bankroll you need is 1500 units.  That means we're in like Flint.  These killer sessions should only come up once every 50 to 100 sessions and the other session should be winning 20 - 50 units, on a good day maybe more.

The thing that gets my pulse racing is that this can be played on Roulette, baccarat and the pass/don't pass line in craps.  That gives us some options when we go to casino.

Waiting for one of the experts to answer my questions,

Thanks,

George

[albalaha]

yes, Adulay. 31 is latest.

[Fripper]

Hey Dear Marcus,
          I could not be more impressed by any other EC methods but still fail to understand it fully. I am providing here a small session of 185 spins taken from live slingshot roulette of smart live casino. Please play this here in simple language and not in excel sheet. Think you are taking a tutorial of your roulette technique to a layman.

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Maybe after understanding the complete technique I could suggest some valuable tweaks to make it lesser risky and quickwinner.

It's hard to understand, I know, I've been there.
Maybe, we aren't playing the way Belgian plays it either, but for now it works great.

I can run through your spins but the easiest to demonstrate would be in a excel file so I can use lines and so on, much easier.
Will see when I have the time.

@GLC
Never stop coming with ideas, we may improve this baby even more and you never know what will improve it.

[aleks06]

Hi albalaha, Hi Glc

I will try to make a little tutorial here for you & others. I hope It will help. Please excuse me for my very poor English.


First of all, choose your favorite EC. Let's say we bet on RED.

we will play this decision in pairs like this :

R
R

R
R

R
R

...etc

If we win the first bet we don't bet the next spin

R bet -> win
R no bet

R bet -> lose
R bet -> win

R bet -> win
R no bet

When you lose the first bet you use a marty on the second bet.

R bet 1 lose
R bet 2 win

when you win your first bet or second bet you delete the first and last number of your labby.
if you lose both bets you add the sum of the bets to your labby that you can divide into 2 figures, 3 or 4 as you like

example :

R bet 15 lose
R bet 30 lose

15 + 30 = 45 so it can be :  22,23 or 15,15,15

when you lose 4 decisions in a row you stop playing

R lose
R lose

R lose
R lose

don't bet...you wait the serie breaks.

when you lose 2 series of 4 you divide the sum of the labby into 2. and then you play another even chance like even/odd or high/low.

about the labby now, we start playing with 9 imaginary zero's and a "1". of course you can play with more zero's. the aggressive way with the 9 zero's is doing very well at the moment.

example :

bet red

labby is : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1

bet 1 LOSE
bet 2 win

net : + 1 end of labby. restart. every +1 is like a new session.

labby is : 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1

bet 1 lose
bet 2 lose

net : -2

your labby is now 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,2 you replace 2 zero's by sum of the bets

bet 2 win

net : 0

your labby is now 0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1  delete the first and the last.

no bet

bet 1 win

net : +1  restart when you are even or at +1

no bet
the labby is now 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1


always end the labby.

When the bets are too high you can divide the bets into 3 or even 4 figures. You also can stretch the labby with more zero's.

Another important thing you must spread the sum of the bets on the figures to keep the bets as low as possible.

let's say your labby is :

4,5,5,5,5=24

your next bet is

4+5 = 9 you lose
so your bet is 18 you lose

the sum is : 27

your labby could be 4,5,5,5,5,13,14=51

or

7,7,7,7,7,8,8=51

which is better.

Now I will show you how I play with your small session from smartlive in the next post.

[aleks06]

We bet black

               BET           NET                              LABBY

19R          1               -1                                 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
3R            2               -3                                 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,2
8B            2               -1                                  0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1
25R
11B          1                0                    RESET LABBY  0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
9R
30R          1                -1                                        
2B            2                +1                                        0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
34R          1                0
12R          2                -2                                         0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,2
24B          2                 0                                        0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1          
36R
19R          1                 -1
14R          2                 -3                                         0,0,0,0,1,1,1,2
1R            2                 -5       1 serie of 4                0,0,0,1,1,1,2,2
15B
7R            2                 -7
16R          4                 -11                                       0,1,1,1,2,2,3,3
32R          3                 -14
7R            6                  -20    2 series of 4             1,1,1,2,2,3,3,4,5=22

divide the labby 22/2=11   ->   2,3,3,3 and 2,3,3,3 we bet on red and HIGH


21R         5High           -15                           3,3                                                                
25R                                                                          
35B         6High           -9                       end of labby
28B        5 Black           -4            3,3
31B        
9R          6B                   -10
19R        12B                 -22          3,3,9,9=24-> 6,6,6,6=24
1R          12                    -34
29B        24                    -10                6,6=12
12R       12                     -22
29B       24                      +2                   end of labby


12R
29B        1                       +3                         0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1      
0
16R        1                       +2
11B        2                       +4

etc...

I hope you get It now.

As Fripper said i'm sure that we can improve this system make it safer and/or more profitable. This is a very flexible method.

[aleks06]

I've just tested something on Session 7.

I bet in "trio's" like this :

"RRR" "RRR" "RRR"....

if the first bet win don't play for the next 2 spins...

the results are impressive...


217 spins

+31 profit

lowest point : -83  :LoL: :LoL: :LoL:

highest bet : 64  

session 7 too easy.

my dear fripper please have a look on this.

[trebor]

Well done Fripper and Aleks06,

It's great what you have been able to do with these difficult sequences.

I've read all the posts ( here and in Roulette30) and think I know how you are working this. at least I did until Aleks06's tutorial. I can't work out how you're playing it after the labby is divided.
You change from betting black to red and also bring in high for the second labby. I see how the labby on high is ended but the sequence of betting on red I can't work out.

Please explain again if you have time.

Robert

[aleks06]

sorry I said we bet on RED after diving the labby but it's BLACK of course. I made a mistake. thanks for noticing it. You never change. I don't think I can modify it 

[aleks06]

Another try betting in "trio's" with session 8.


225 spins

+30 units profit

lowest point : -323

highest bet : 184

[Fripper]

Hi aleks06.

Very well done in explaining it. 

About betting "trio's".

I also tested instead of betting the usual with pairs I tested with trio's in session 11.

I got very high bets in the end. The first 150+ spins was no problem, but after that it went hard.
Check it out if you have time.

Keep ideas coming

[trebor]

Thanks but I still can't work the numbers as you have.
I take it that although the labby is split you reset once in profit even if one labby hasn't finished.

I'll carry on working at it. The alternative is to accept I'm an idiot.   

Robert

[Fripper]

Thanks but I still can't work the numbers as you have.
I take it that although the labby is split you reset once in profit even if one labby hasn't finished.

I'll carry on working at it. The alternative is to accept I'm an unintelligent.    

Robert

The "high" labby ended after just 2 wins. As you can see.

The "black" labby waited until the serie of reds ended, and then started betting Black. Started after black 35.

Maybe that helps.

[trebor]

Egg on face time   

Clean forgot about waiting for the red run to end. Stupid really since in all my other working through examples I was doing it that way.

Robert

[N0vocane]

The last post at roulette 30 talks about the midas method being extremely similar to this one, possibly even better. Is this true? What are the differences?

[Tomla021]

on midas you set up a line like 15, 10, 10, 10 to win 45,,,,, you bet first number if it hits you cross it off and bet the two outside numbers, then 3 numbers till you lose... if you lose you place the number lost on the end and continue betting with the first number on the line.......you can also cut figures in half or put in a new line etc