Beating roulette with math..

[aleks06]

how are you doing with your tests fripper ?

after many experiments, i think i will test the sessions with my way i.e no marty, stop after 2 losses, max figures : 10.

So far it looks good.

please keep testing with your way and at the end we will see who has the best results.

cheers

[Fripper]

So far so good.
Ok, lets see which performs best. 

[aleks06]

hey fripper, how are your tests going ?

[Fripper]

They are good.

I have modified mine some, I'm using a zero in all the session, adapting to the bad runs.
My bets are way lower.

How's yours?

[aleks06]

well I tried different ways (except yours) with different results but every times I try something new i have good sessions and bad. Maybe i'm too "perfectionist" and I have to consider that we can't have something perfect.

How are they "good". what is in average the lowest point and highest bet ?

how do you use the zero ?

[Fripper]

Ye me to, I'm testing different things. I get some really nice sessions and then some bad ones.
I don't know yet which is the best..
You are right, nothing is perfect, but the question is which is the best.

[aleks06]

Dear Fripper, do you want some help testing ? I'm currently out of ideas...

[Fripper]

We will talk on Skype my friend.

Here is the 11 horror sessions provided by bayes in this thread.
I attach them all with separate text files.
Each has 400 spins. Real 200 spins + 200 following

Cheers

[flukey luke]

Hello Fripper,

I was just wondering if you were still working on this idea. This one really caught my interest and things looked promising in the early stages.

I have more or less started my own testing using a slight variation and so far so good.
I am playing an even chance bet but waiting for my bet section to hit a low of 20% over a period of at least 30 spins before I would start betting.

My theory is that groups of numbers come and go in cycles and I am happy to sit and wait for my bet selection to hit a rough patch before going on an upward curve. Of course the possibility is there for it to continue to perform badly but I have not witnessed it so far.

[Fripper]

Hi Flukey

It's very good becuase you have alot of different options so you can adjust to your personal choice. I'm still winning with it and I recommend to play on live wheels, it should be very hard to lose a bank of 1000 units there. Rng is faster but also more difficult, if you ask me.

You can play the original way or you can adapt to bad runs etc. There are many ways to do this..

Report back if you want, with how you play and any winnings is also nice to hear about!

Cheers

[alex]

Hi Fripper,

Picked this method up long time ago on the ProjectSydney board which is now long gone.  Played around with it back than but it appears it wasn't finished! I'm very happy to have found this thread as it seems belgian quit posting but he did fine tune his method!!

I'm thinking about picking up this method again for testing, but before i do can you tell me a little bit more about your last results? Still no loss? Sure hope so!

Keep up the good work!
Cheers,
Alex

[predator]

Hi,the idea of this method is excellent. it can be real the holy grail. The problem is that the most of the people here did not understand it, just like me. Can someone tell us how to use it?
thanks in andvance

[Fripper]

Hi alex and predator

Sorry alex that I didn't answer earlier. I read your message but was in a hurry and forgot about it.

Well, I haven't tested this for a while. I and aleks06 tested some things together and we got some promising results. It looks like with every tweak you do it gets better for a while but then it busts.

However the best method so far is the orginial one. We play exactly like belgian does and when we reach two 4-in a row losses we split all the figures and move the half to another EC. This is to reduce the bets and risk.

I have explained several times in this thread and also belgian have some examples. The original way hasn't lost yet for me. We tested all the bad sessions that was provided in this thread and all was cleared.

Read through this thread and I think you will understand everything. It isn't that hard when you have tried some sessions.

Look at the excel files, they are very good and you can watch spin by spin.

If you still don't get it, then I'm happy to provide you with a sample again

I don't play this anymore becuase I played at an RNG and was close to lose it all once. I started doubting it's randomness but I'm not sure about that either. I recommend playing at a live wheel or preferably in a land based casino. Do like belgian, set goal and rise your bets accordingly. I will find it very hard to see you lose.

Cheers

[Fripper]

This is the only method that I haven't lost with yet, so it is indeed very strong.


When I find a pretty good method I always test it until it busts (Everyone should do this). However with this method I have tested over 10000 spins along with the 11 horror session provided here in this thread, and all cleared.


I mean the original method. With that I mean we are splitting the figures to another EC when we have 2 four-in-a-row losses or your preferable amount.


I just wanted to bring this up again as this is the best method I know of so far.


Here is a typical 1000 spin session, there will be worse and also some that are easier.

[alex]

Hi Fripper,

Thank you very much for your reply!

It's a funny thing, this method never left my mind since the first time I encountered it. And now I see it is still winning. Back in 2005 I tried to code it in RX but with no luck (and to little perserverance). Maybe somebody skilled in RX can code it now? In the meantime I have to go back to learning the basics of this method again, will go through the pages tomorrow!

Fripper, let's see if we can make it go bust somewhere along the road :-)

Again thanks for all the work you have already put into it!

Cheers,
Alexander